ATVs and Trailers

[lambic]

Gents

Hoping for some real guidance here based on experience to avoid any costly mistakes.

Looking to buy an ATV quad and trailer next month now finally done DSC2. 18 mile each way tow by trailer to stalking grounds. Just starting the research process now. Will be Japanese, 4wd and around 350-400cc.

So that means [FONT=&amp]Honda Fourtrx 420, Yamaha Grizzly 350 or Suzuki King Quad 400.

[/FONT]Width of these seems to be between 1.08m to 1.20m. The widest one appears to the most highly rated and most expensive, the Honda.

Is there a trailer that is time proven to do the job for the Honda? Just needs to take the ATV and the odd bit of firewood (without the ATV in)

The vast majority say IW trailers hold their value the best and the same with Honda.

Hope someone can help......

Cheers

 

[Sheamus]

Iforwilliams P7e will do the job.. Or any of the GD series but make sure they have the tail gate ramp..

1.21 internal width bed measurments on the p6e and p7e type.
1.45 internal width on the p8e model.

 

[North Stalker]

What Sheamus said,

I have the 420 Fourtrax, it fits with plenty room in the P7. From memory, the P7 was £845 plus VAT and that was with the ramp tail gate.

 

[diverdave]

i had the biggest halfords trailer for my quad, and it was ok. It was a bit tinny and fragile, and the quad made it look old quick. I think an IW one or similar, a decent heavy duty one built to last would be better long term. The trailer is still here, used for dump runs and general use, but the quad is long gone, and i am now using argo no 4 as the ground i am on is way better suited to 8x8 then 4x4

 

[Monkey Spanker]

Have you considered something like a box trailer or even a small horse trailer? Less obvious what you are carrying and useful for storage, carcass transportation, mobile shed/workshop or even somewhere to sleep!
You also need somewhere very secure to store it as they are prime targets for scumbags to steal!
Most stalkers actually do very few miles on a quad if it is purely used for carcass retrieval. I bought an old FC Honda 450 Foreman which had been fully serviced regularly and even came with a winch fitted! I've done very few hours on it in the past 3 years and only used the winch to help secure it on the trailer! I couldn't manage some areas without it though.
MS

 

[Pedro]

I've got a Grizzly 450 and it fits snugly on my Ifor Williams P6e and they tow like a dream. I guess the ideal thing is to decide on a quad and armed with the measurements, go for the trailer to suit your needs. I can pretty easily move my trailer with the quad on by myself on made up ground (road, pavement etc.) but of course you'll need a jockey wheel for that if it doesn't have one. They're around the £30 mark.

 

[B&W FOX]

Trailer https://www.logictoday.co.uk/

ATV https://www.atvservices.net/suzukiatv
https://www.atvservices.net/

 

[Cygnus]

Hi Lambic
I have a Suzuki Kingquad 400 and an Ifor Williams P6e
The quad sits snuggly on the trailer if reversed on.
The trailer is fitted with flotation tyres which allows the quad to pull it
over soft / rougher ground.
Its a great combination which I use over very boggy and marshy ground with very few problems.

Cheers
Alan

 

[lambic]

Thanks for all the replies gents. I will have a good read through and see what the numbers come to.
The quad will need to go in my shed and perhaps the trailer to, so need to be able manhandle the trailer by hand. So the smaller the better.
Thanks again.

 

[mack8317]

bought my ifor Williams p6 in 2005 for £775 its still in good nick if I was to sell it tomorrow I would get most of my money back

 

[lambic]

Regarding the ATV, are Honda's still better long term investments than Suzuki or Yamaha? Or is there not much in it now?

Besides the 4wd, are there any other features which are strongly recommend? My stalking buddy said I should look at power steering which his 10 year old 350cc honda lacks ( he is a big advocate of Honda).

 

[Markfox]

I use a Phoenix trailers 8x4 twin axle Unbraked with the cage sides they are made in bridgenorth

my Yamaha quad has about 11/2 foot to spare on length and about 4 inch eigher side

 

[countrryboy]

I think with the quad the individual bike could be more important than the brand.
Always been a honda man but don't think there are as good as made out (or otherbrands caught up tp there standards) but do avoid the top end honda's with auto/ES too complicated, i'd also avoid the ES too for same reason.

I've got an ancient Iffor 8x4 braked (GP?) i've had since new which is still going strong could of done 200' 000 miles now with bike on it.
If i was to replace it i'd go with a braked 8x5 ifor, every new quad seems to get wider and wider and now quite tight to get in'out the trailer without hanking them if loading often.
The ifor 6x4 gp trailer u couldn't shut the back door right with a quad on as too long for the trailer, plus the 8x4 means u can buy sheets of timber/plasterboard etc in ur trailer cn be quite handy.
I also think the 8 footer balances better with the bike, i know i had far less wear and tear on tyres and brakes than others doing same job running 6ft trailers.
As long as single axle it should be easy pushed even with bike on it as long as ur on a decent surface, i've pushed mine with 1T of feed onit up a very slight hill many times and not as bad as it sounds if well balanced.

If u like to look after ur gear and doing bigger miles i'd screw some running boards of steel where quad tyres sit for travelling, surprising how quick they can wear a hole/dent in ur trailer floor

I have used my road trailers off road but i would adviise u no too, it just wrecks them, pulls of lighting cables, mud guards etc if ur over any sort of rough stuff.
With the longer 8ft trailer i could lift a light wieght trailer into the frount of the trailer and stand it on its end, quite handy.
But TFM engineering do a great off road collapsable trailer that travels under ur quad on a trailer
or even just lay 2 strips down before u load the bike

 

[lambic]

I think with the quad the individual bike could be more important than the brand.
Always been a honda man but don't think there are as good as made out (or otherbrands caught up tp there standards) but do avoid the top end honda's with auto/ES too complicated, i'd also avoid the ES too for same reason.

I've got an ancient Iffor 8x4 braked (GP?) which is still going strong could of done 200' 000 miles now with bike on it.
If i was to replace it i'd go with a braked 8x5 ifor, every new quad seems to get wider and wider and now quite tight to get in'out the trailer without hanking them if loading often.
The ifor 6x4 gp trailer u couldn't shut the back door right with a quad on as too long for the trailer, plus the 8x4 means u can buy sheets of timber/plasterboard etc in ur trailer cn be quite handy.
I also think the 8 footer balances better with the bike, i know i had far less wear and tear on tyres and brakes than others doing same job running 6ft trailers.
As long as single axle it should be easy pushed even with bike on it as long as ur on a decent surface, i've pushed mine with 1T of feed onit up a very slight hill many times and not as bad as it sounds if well balanced.

If u like to look after ur gear and doing bigger miles i'd screw some running boards of steel where quad tyres sit for travelling, surprising how quick they can wear a hole/dent in ur trailer floor
or even just lay 2 strips down before u load the bike

Thanks Countryboy. Will look at 8x5 as well.

What do think about CVT on ATVs? Not sure if the 3 quads I mentioned offer it..
I have it on my Subaru and works well.

 

[lambic]

Have you considered something like a box trailer or even a small horse trailer? Less obvious what you are carrying and useful for storage, carcass transportation, mobile shed/workshop or even somewhere to sleep!
You also need somewhere very secure to store it as they are prime targets for scumbags to steal!
Most stalkers actually do very few miles on a quad if it is purely used for carcass retrieval. I bought an old FC Honda 450 Foreman which had been fully serviced regularly and even came with a winch fitted! I've done very few hours on it in the past 3 years and only used the winch to help secure it on the trailer! I couldn't manage some areas without it though.
MS

MS

Where did you source an ex FC quad from? Did you go to them directly...I would need a winch etc as it is for very steep / rough FC rides.

 

[lambic]

Hi Lambic
I have a Suzuki Kingquad 400 and an Ifor Williams P6e
The quad sits snuggly on the trailer if reversed on.
The trailer is fitted with flotation tyres which allows the quad to pull it
over soft / rougher ground.
Its a great combination which I use over very boggy and marshy ground with very few problems.

Cheers
Alan

Alan
Is your Kingquad manual or CVT?
Cheers

 

[jackfish]

I have a Honda 500 Fa6 and tow it in an Ifor Williams GD84 dual axle trailer. Length wise it has room to spare but driving it up the ramp it's quite close on the tyres. All in all though a good solid trailer that goes well. I can manoeuvre it and the quad no problem taking it in and out of the garage so no issues there. A bit of room length wise gives me the option to put a few extra beasts in the back if need be.

 

[sikasako]

IFOR Williams P6 or P7 depending on quad size.
Useful optional mesh sides for transporting firewood.
Wider tyre size is recommended if you want to pull trailer across fields behind quad itself.
Can still be moved by one person when loaded with quad.
Not the cheapest but shall hold value well and very reliable.
Keep an eye out on Gumtree for one if you’re not in a hurry.

 

[Ranger22]

MS

Where did you source an ex FC quad from? Did you go to them directly...I would need a winch etc as it is for very steep / rough FC rides.

they go to auction. There could be some coming up for sale soon, heard that some new quads have arrived

 

[Malxwal]

they go to auction. There could be some coming up for sale soon, heard that some new quads have arrived

Do they go to the plant auctions up North, is Dingwall a main one ?
I would have thought round my way they may appear at Thainstone Marts.