Bavarian mountain hound puppies

[d0nni]

Hi,

My bavarian bitch has had a successful mate and hopefully should have puppies in the coming months if all is well. Will know more in a few weeks once/if she shows.

The dog is a polish import with excellent temperament, fully working and excellent hip score.

The bitch is the same. Shes an excellent example of the bmh breed. Big (as large as any dog I've seen just leaner framed), solid, confident and smart. Fully working also I'd be stalking most weekends and shes always by my side. No hip score (had it booked in before Covid-19 lockdown but then caught her in heat and the backlog now was too long with an 8month wait for results) both her parents have excellent hip scores so no fears of hip dysplasia in her line.

Both are pure bred with excellent lines behind them with no signs of close mating within their generations (why i chose this dog to breed with along with it's great temperment and proven tracking)

Can get photos both breeding lines on request along with photos of each dog and bitch and videos of tracking capabilities etc if required.

Should know if shes successful within the coming week but just letting the masses know incase anyone if after a pup.

Based in N.Ireland but have a trusted transport who the dog owner knows and has used many times and isnt too hard paid.

 

[Mountainman72]

Whats the score was the mate a success pups on the way

 

[d0nni]

Whats the score was the mate a success pups on the way

still not 100% but think shes starting to produce milk and is starting to show suttle signs. Will know more for sure in a week or 2 now. will keep you posted. She shouldn't be far from really showing now if its a success or not.

 

[Mountainman72]

Cheers I'm new here so don't know how to or if you can send a private message but keep me updated please.

 

[Luke22]

Hi have all your pups been reserved?

 

[d0nni]

Hi have all your pups been reserved?

Nothing yet as nothing confirmed. Shes only 4 weeks in today so still no definite signs yet. Soon as I know more you all will. All I know is one fella has himself down for looking the first pick of a bitch

 

[Luke22]

Nothing yet as nothing confirmed. Shes only 4 weeks in today so still no definite signs yet. Soon as I know more you all will. All I know is one fella has himself down for looking the first pick of a bitch

Could I for the second bitch if lucky enough to get a few please. Been looking a long time and hard to find

 

[357mag]

I would be interested to find out more about a dog pup. Been waiting for the right bloodline.

Can you send more information on the breeding line as stated in your initial ad?

Thank you .

 

[d0nni]

I would be interested to find out more about a dog pup. Been waiting for the right bloodline.

Can you send more information on the breeding line as stated in your initial ad?

Thank you .

I've a few people looking the paperwork for both. I've sent the Dogs paperword across so have those saved. but will get a photo of my bitches paperwork this evening and send to all

 

[d0nni]

Hi Everyone.

So I've finally got round to hoking out the bitches (Mine) paperwork.

Below is her parents hip scores as promised. Then below that is Lexi's (Kenaiteen Flamingo) 3 Generation Pedigree

 

[d0nni]

This is the Dogs details who she has hopefully successfully mated with. If it is not successful the Dog owner is only a quick spin down the road and said we can catch her on the next cycle. If that is the case and shes not mated (Due date around 30th Aug - 1st Sept) then first thing I will be doing is getting her x-ray'd for hip score.

Only reason shes not hip scored is purely due to this damn Covid I had her booked in then we went into lock down. Then while i was off on furlough we caught her bleeding and with the Dog owner knowing the parents and happy with their scores they were happy to mate.

 

[d0nni]

Picture of the Dog

 

[Loler UK]

What is their "proven tracking" performance? tests? ISHV, ukdtr, etc or is it just personal experience?

 

[d0nni]

What is their "proven tracking" performance? tests? ISHV, ukdtr, etc or is it just personal experience?

No Tests as we have no testing facilities here in Northern Ireland unfortunately. So its purely personal experience. There should be no doubts on their ability to perform. They are both excellent tracking dogs, just no formal certificates to say so.

 

[Wolverine]

There will be no ISHV test for these dogs.

One of the dogs on the papers above is one of the most prevalent carriers of epilepsy within the breed.

Always be wary when there are unknown dogs within papers.
Why are they unknown ?

The only way to go with both BGS or HS is through the ISHV.
The ISHV is the only way to know exactly what you have.
Otherwise it’s like Russian roulette.

We are importing in 2 BGS this year that will be doing the ISHV tests and will both be within the ISHV studbook.
As well as a couple of HS as well.

If the dogs aren’t recognised by the ISHV ask yourself why ?
The answer is very simple,they are not up to the required standard to be bred from.

All the best
George

 

[d0nni]

One of the dogs on the papers above is one of the most prevalent carriers of epilepsy within the breed.

Which dog are you referring too as this is the first I have heard of this. If you could provide me with further information on this?

If the dogs aren’t recognised by the ISHV ask yourself why ?
The answer is very simple,they are not up to the required standard to be bred from.

This is genuinely the first time I've seen anyone even mention ISHV stamped (I had to look it up) so pardon me if my dog isnt "ISHV Stamped"
Both dogs currently work almost daily (I have mine out every outting) and same can be said with the Dog's owner who i know personally, so if thats not a working them and i need a stamp to say so?

We are importing in 2 BGS this year that will be doing the ISHV tests and will both be within the ISHV studbook.
As well as a couple of HS as well.

Good for you, create your own post and advertise them there

All the best,
Andrew

 

[d0nni]

Which dog are you referring too as this is the first I have heard of this. If you could provide me with further information on this?



This is genuinely the first time I've seen anyone even mention ISHV stamped (I had to look it up) so pardon me if my dog isnt "ISHV Stamped"
Both dogs currently work almost daily (I have mine out every outting) and same can be said with the Dog's owner who i know personally, so if thats not a working them and i need a stamp to say so?



Good for you, create your own post and advertise them there

All the best,
Andrew

I come across kind of rude here so want to clear something up. After posting I thought id prefer find out straight away so gave george a call and had a good chat about the breeds, breeding, testing etc. He mentions a dog on the Dog's line, did say to me im sure the pups will be fine and that the epilespy is being tested to find out how its actually spread throughout the breeds.

He explained to me who the ISHV are and what they require in order for a dog to be a working dog. To be fair it does sound like we in the UK are only flirting with these dogs and not actually using them to their full potential at all.

 

[Wolverine]

Hey dOnni,no stress.
This is the issue with non-ISHV dogs,you have no guarantee that the health of the dogs can be as good as it can be.
This is a major issue within the breed-epilepsy.

I know if I was purchasing a dog that I will have for 10-15 years hopefully, I would like to know the positives and negatives of the relatives.

This is the whole idea of the ISHV-close co-operation between member countries to ensure the highest health available of the dogs as well as the best working performance available.

I’m not advertising at all,I’m telling the truth and only members of UKSHA within the UK can obtain ISHV dogs.

When dealing with these 2 breeds,both HS and BGS,anything else can be a minefield.

Dogs with papers but the papers aren’t recognised by anyone etc etc etc

In reality,too numerous issues to mention.
All the best
George

 

[Keith Edmunds]

Always be wary when there are unknown dogs within papers.
Why are they unknown ?



All the best
George

Some good points on the post but, regarding 'unknown registered' on a KC pedigree, this simply means that the dogs are not on the KC's database. The KC's database is pretty poor, from a global perspective, and many globally very well known dogs do not appear on it. It is also full of spelling mistakes.

 

[Wolverine]

Actually Keith,the KC database won’t hold the dogs but the FCI will so it should never happen where dogs are missing on papers.
The globally well known dogs you talk of that aren’t on the papers aren’t very well known by the majority of people.
If you know the lines of BGS you can piece them together from the progeny but again the KC should have that done,not the owners of the dogs.
The owners of the dogs can look up a website that helps with Polish BGS but as for the other countries you have to know which progeny come from which matings.
When it’s Slovakian and Czech dogs that have been mated there’s where some of the issues start.
The spelling mistakes are a major f@&£ up as I know some dogs that are very similar but from completely different lines.
As a registry these things should never happen.
The UK KC is not recognised by the ISHV......neither are the clubs that work to their rules.I wonder why
All the best
George