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[VSS]

There’s definitely an opening in the market there. You provide the livestock and people with badly behaved dogs will beat a path to your door. You will definitely lose the odd lamb or chicken, so better price that into your business model.
The problem with dogs is that chasing prey and pulling it down is what the are evolved to do, they love it. Finding someone who is willing to let you get that out of the dogs system with their livestock is bloody difficult.

I believe there is a dog trainer who offers exactly what you're suggesting, although I very much doubt that any livestock are harmed in the process.

 

[Dunwaters]

I believe there is a dog trainer who offers exactly what you're suggesting, although I very much doubt that any livestock are harmed in the process.

It’s common on the continent for training moose and boar dogs. I’ve never heard of anyone offering the service here.

 

[Zxrtom]

Has anyone used an e-collar they’d recommend? With audio or ‘e-encouragement’ not to stray over a set boundary .

Live on a small holding and a great working cocker. Trained to work and comes along on stalks. We have a rearing pen about 300m away from ours in a wood and she has been sneaking off there a few times, so want to knock this on the head especially now the poults have arrived.!

Live in the Moors where phone signal is poor/non-existent so anything using existing mobile networks won’t work so probably leaves either GPS / wire in ground. If anyone has used them and can recommend for my circumstances I’d be grateful for a steer.

Cheers

 

[skypie]

I had success with training my Labrador to not chase sheep using the spray collar from petsafe . Probably not as good as a ecollar but did work to break his attention and get a verbal telling off.

 

[wb123]

I've generally found borrowing a feisty pet lamb that has no fear of dogs puts some sense into them very quickly. Only once have I had a dog that still wanted to chase them.

 

[skypie]

Made long line training, spray collar work a priority for a while. Plus I found some sheep nearby that would chase and stamp when we walked through the field.

 

[Jagare]

It’s common on the continent for training moose and boar dogs. I’ve never heard of anyone offering the service here.

In Sweden moose dogs are trained in the wild a dog that thinks it's going to Attack a moose will soon get stomped. The are facilities where a boar dog can be trained in a fenced area. There are a couple not far from me.

 

[Bowland blades]

The dog was bred to heard , the training in a keen dog needs to be done well well when the dog is able to have a lead on . Collies are bred to heard but they think they are where bred to chase and bite , pull down and kill !
Once its trying , your out of your depth and if e-collars should honestly be used only by those who really get all the bits in the learning chain and the importance of timing .
Take the dog to a respected kennels where the trainer can sort both hands and eyes on both you and the dog

 

[SavingE-collarsinScotland]

On a technical point I thought ecollars were illegal except in NI or does that only apply to those which have the electric shock function rather than just the sound and tremble functions?
“In England, the use of electric shock collars on dogs and cats is illegal. While the UK government had previously announced a ban, legislation.gov.uk was enacted in 2023 to make it a crime to use or possess such collars. The ban also applies to anyone who causes an electronic collar to be attached to a cat or dog. In Wales, shock collars have been banned since 2010. While the Scottish Government has issued guidance against their use, a formal ban has not yet been enacted. Northern Ireland does not have any legal restrictions on the use of shock collars”.

E-collar use, and attaching an e-collar to a dog is still completely legal in England and Scotland. It still comes up in searches that they have been banned in England because inaccurate press articles were published based on press releases from the organisations like Dogs Trust, RSPCA, The Royal Kennel Club, Battersea and others who have campaigned for a ban. It is sad to see these lies being propogated.

 

[Brittany boy]

You need the basics installed the good old fashioned way by spending the time with the dog. Once they knew the rules I found that the vibration button was enough to remind the dog I was still in contact with them, and they should do what they were told. Rarely did they need a reminder of the shock and once the recall whistle and a treat was established there was no requirement for the collar. Now a pleasure to have around.