Bavarian mountain hound

[Wolverine]

difficult one to answer off the top of my head and as working off the phone today, but i will answer your questions when i get back to my pc, as for a standerd in this country well six pointer did ask in another thread not long ago i think, i think you all know what i think but no body els was prepaired to put a standerd forward, i am working to try and get something sorted at the moment, but it is early days and getting everybody around the table is the aim and then getting all to agree a standerd and training is going to be a night mare.

tony

Kim not in Tony?Only pulling your leg bud
People here as I've said don't know how to agree......Im still raging on who should talk to Rudi as such.
I have a thick skin,please direct the questions posed to myself.
Rudi is a gentleman and very knowledgable on this subject,more than any person on these shores.
Yet again narrow mindedness!!!!!
SD's loss as well.

 

[6pointer]

Rudi if it is a direct attack report it to admin also if you have recived a pm you can block that person i dont know how to do it but CSL will sort it for you.
Stick it out with out knowlage and training things will remain the same instead of moving forward in a positive way.

 

[straightbetweentheeyes]

Im still raging on who should talk to Rudi as such.
I have a thick skin,please direct the questions posed to myself.
Rudi is a gentleman and very knowledgable on this subject,more than any person on these shores.
Yet again narrow mindedness!!!!!
SD's loss as well.

+1

 

[stone]

Dear all ,
I became a not so friendly post from one off the SD users , about training , bilding up , giving advice , ect ...
Therefore i decided from now one not to post anything more on the SD , i tought i could be an helping hand .
Regards ,
Rudi

don't do it
keep posting , you hav a world of experience and advice that counts
i know not every one is going to agree and debate is good
but personal attacks are not
it would be a great shame for you to leave under these circumstances
kind regards
Richard

 

[stone]

Correct Tony,therefore inherently bred to track.....I love chocolate labs too
Nothing to do with training bud,raw material.Now whichever method you use it matters not as long as you're happy with that method and it works for you.Same with Scenthounds,some will take to a higher level than others,nothing wrong with that.Or the lesser level as long as its doing the job required.
A few questions Tony,Danish test,which one are the parents having to complete before breeding?The pre-test or the elite test?
The Danish system is a good one,however is it correct that if a handler who receives first grade passes on a puppy test(3hours old/400m long) for 2 different dogs can then enter future dogs right into another puppy test(for a scenthound20hour old/400mlong)without ever having to sit this test again?
Passing this test(again a first grade pass) then let's the handler and dog onto the official register and allow them onto the elite tests(20hours old/40hours old,over 1km long)without having to do the pre-test.
So therefore someone can jump a dog up the tests without being tested?!?
Also where in the Danish system is obedience tested?
Or is it just tracking work that's tested?That is leash work only,getting a dog from point A to point B.With no wounded animal at the end?
Also blood or no blood,is 100ml of blood a lot of blood to use on a track over 1000m(elite test)especially where there are wound couches to be indicated?(Where majority of that blood will be used,unless theres a fake chase)So does in fact the Danish system not use exactly the same training as the German one but at a lesser level?Note for any of the other tests is 250ml not the absolute maximum that can be used? Not saying any system is better just that levels are different.For example only leash work tested.
Now if blood is to be used for a start in training how does that dog indicate that minute amount at a wound couch for you?Especially when started on blood for training,ie the dog will realise what it is but will he indicate it when started on blood,are the Danish tests at the wound couch deducted points for not indicating?
Is Denmark an ISHV country?
Danish dogs are bred and worked to a standard a good standard but there are differences between the training of them as the standards trained to are different for these tests.Tests between Scenthounds and other breeds.
AT LEAST THEY HAVE A STANDARD!!!!Unlike us.

my take on it
if a dog/handler skips the lesser test and completes the higher test as grade1 or a first
then they are already of that ability to realise a lesser test is not needed
if they can jump the scheme and enter at a greater level and succeed then more power to the dog and handler
because they already hav the ability at that stage to complete such tests
goes to show they know what they are doing and can get a dog upto that standard
regardless of what test you do
if you can't walk the walk , you will never pass the tests of such standards without knowing what you are ddoing but yes start at the beginning and work up at this stage

as for indicating blood
my lab has never failed to indicate a wound bed both in a artificial track laid by me or on a real hot scent track and even on overnight tracks when looking for a lost deer the next day
i feel the dog has worked that part out on her own even though she was trained using blood from the start

but I hav noticed a difference now I am not using blood at all when laying a track
yep
definate learning some thing different because of it

 

[sikamalc]

Dear all ,
I became a not so friendly post from one off the SD users , about training , bilding up , giving advice , ect ...
Therefore i decided from now one not to post anything more on the SD , i tought i could be an helping hand .
Regards ,
Rudi

Please let me know via PM who it was and the content of the post and admin will deal with it. We value everyones input on the site providing it is not abusive or name calling. Anyone who breaks these rules can expect to be banned.

Thank you

 

[jimmy milnes]

Please let me know via PM who it was and the content of the post and admin will deal with it. We value everyones input on the site providing it is not abusive or name calling. Anyone who breaks these rules can expect to be banned.

Thank you

hi malc,
hi truely hope you do get to the bottom of this matter regards rudi, but id just like to say that if your comment above regards abusive and name calling not being tolerated is true please look back to the first line of your post "#30" on this thead.

kind regards
jimmy

 

[sikamalc]

hi malc,
hi truely hope you do get to the bottom of this matter regards rudi, but id just like to say that if your comment above regards abusive and name calling not being tolerated is true please look back to the first line of your post "#30" on this thead.

kind regards
jimmy

Something I cant stand is people with NO sense of humour, thats why I used the emoticons. There is a void of difference between name calling and sending abusive posts privately or openly, and a tongue in cheek comment. Political correctness seems to rule the world these days!!

Running this site is sometimes like being a school teacher keeping two sqabbling kids apart, especially it seems anything to do with dog training and how they should be trained

I have a very good friend who visits the Bavarian club and has many friends out there, and who introduced me to the BMH breed over 8 years ago. However I have nothing against their methods and as I have said before I am amazed at how well they are able to train their dogs. I do not have the time to undertake such time consuming trails, as a self employed stalker my diary is fully booked and I have leases to pay and a business to run and bills to pay.

Atb

Non politically correct Sikamalc

 

[Rhinoshot]

HI. Im also considering a BMH pup. I saw them working in ireland where I was stalking recently ( Wicklow mountains) for Sika. I can say they are a steady dog, will walk to heal or behind and I do feel are very aware of deer ahead. Very clued in with the owner and ready for action. If anyone knows of any pups or planned litters, please PM. Cheers