Bavarians are great

[Paul 600]

I was given this advice by a FC ranger on how to teach your dog to avoid a stags antlers, get a old set of antlers, start to play with you your dog getting it excited and jumping about play fighting ect then hit it on the head with the antlers do not change your attitude keep laughing and smiling yourself, play with you dog some more giving it a tap on the head every now and again with the antler. The dog soon learns that antlers are bad news and will keep out the way of them while continuing to play with you.


Best rgds

Tahr

A friend of mine told me how he got his wirehair to hate deer. He would give the wire a prod in the backside with a roe antler. Eventualy the dog would get rather upset at the sight of a roe head. Very amusing watching Badger (the dog)get upset as a Roe scull emerged from a day sack!

 

[Trapper]

Well gents
Have looked and listened to this thread with interest, all opinions appreciated, as a complete novice to tracking I have gleaned lots of interesting facts, and approaches to this essential art!.
I very much look forward to Stones dog day where this subject will be discussed in the field in practical terms, and over a genial lunch with much banter. A gathering of like minded folk in pursuit of Knowledge.
Right am away to prod me dog
Regards
Trapper.

 

[doghound]

Now I know why I cant stand the sight of my missus, she prods me in the a**e every morning to get me up. Geez I hope I dont end up biting her!

Jagare i remeber that little sod "Brute", you must have spent your life proding him to get him that angry at every deer he saw.

 

[delboy]

Hi Malc
I'm glad to hear your happy with Todd and to hear that he's going well I must have is litter brother and he has a phenominal hunting drive and as found some difficult finds, he as worked muntjac,roe,fallow,sika and red to date and he will go in and finish off injured deer if he is running free and not on a tracking leash or if on a leash i loose him when they get up he will run them down and hold at baye looking to take a hold. Previously I worked GWP's and found them a great allrounder but the BMH is a specialist tracker and some tracking tool they are,
your's in sport delboy.

 

[stone]

delboy
firstly welcome to the site
reading your first post made me chuckle a little, ok alot
but hey why not , as this is why you joined and posted straight in
on this particular thread
as a novice dogs for deer man myself, i am always looking at other ways and info on how other dog handlers train their dogs and their training methods

so i hav a few questions
you talk about having a specialist dog for tracking but then say about working it running free and it brings the deer down surely that is not tracking/trailing but hunting
you talk about tracking on a leash, but if the deer gets up, the dog is set free and brings the deer to baye with the intent to go in for the kill
so what has changed from from being hunted freely to being let of the leash to hunt freely
why would it now start to baye and look to go in, where earlier it would go straight in and bring the deer down
sorry for the questions but lots of areas here i don't understand
ATB
stone

 

[sikamalc]

Hmm I wouldnt say that about Bavarians. What makes you think you have his little brother

 

[delboy]

Stone in reply
1 We are following up wounded beasts that are hit hard and are often down on the ground he will go in and take hold preventing the beast from trying to run on,
2 Tracking on a leash following the trail up of a hit deer with varying degree's of paint available the handler will be able to conclude the damage that the beast has sustained through the strike if the beast as taken refuge in heavy cover and located before the beast is able to take flight and you are unable to take a shot the dog is let loose he will then work it out himself but that comes with experience i dont have a problem with him taking hold of the beast my first concern is to putting the animal out of it's suffering.
3 If the beast is down and the dog is working in heavy cover he will go in and take hold I leave that to the dog to work out as he's the first on the scene if the beast is dead he will baye to let me know of his whereabouts
4 He has been trained on cold scent from a young age and relates to the tracking leash and collar has his perks if you like as he really does enjoy tracking he knows that there will be a very good chance of getting to grips with a beast at the end of the track and been lavished with praise.
5. I'm glad you found my post amusing my use of the english grammar might not be up to a journalists standard but anyone who works dogs might be able to pick up on my pleasure of owning a good worker and also by the way I dont wear a Pink hunting jacket, ride a horse or blow a hunting horn while out tracking i just enjoy what i do is that a crime ?

 

[stone]

Ahhh
delboy thanks for your explanation
i understand now
but lets get things sorted shall we
firstly i don't think it's a crime to enjoy working a dog and resent the fact you think that of me
i never said that or ever made a statement to that effect
as for your use of grammar again i hav not made any judgement on that either
i read what you wrote and took it in good humour ,as your explanation now shows is different to how you first posted
i luv working dogs and find it a great interest in how others train theirs, as i may learn some thing from wot they may hav mentioned
that is why i ask when i am confused by wot is posted
or i am wrong to do so
so i will continue if i may
you train your dogs not to bring a deer to baye but only to bay a dead one so you can locate it
now how do you locate your dog once he has hold of an injured deer as barking to let you know his whereabouts will only release his grip on the wounded animal?
and being in thick cover it's no easy task locating anything especially if you are 1/2 mile away
do you teach them to bay at a trail so you can follow the dog while it's following on before it reaches the live or dead deer or some other method?
or does the dog choose as to wether he goes in or not and then he barks at a live one
does his barking tone change from the deer being live or dead?
sorry for asking so many questions but this is interesting to me
regards
stone