Bayonet

[finbar]

Here’s a photo of a bayonet ma girlfriends dad again no old enough to be in Second World War
This rite up your street Enfield spares

 

[MrD]

It's a bayonet for the Yugoslavian 8mm M1948 Mauser. Cyrillic means 'Factory,' in this case Factory 44 which is now known as Zastava Arms. The cyrillic suggests it was made prior to 1953.

 

[weblyish]

I sort of hate to do this but since I work with difficult inner city teens my knowledge of what is and isn't an offensive weapon is better than it should be

Weapons designed for the purpose of injury and for which there is no other lawful use - such a a bayonet - are unlawful in a public place at any time and may be unlawful to own full stop.
There is no clear allowance for historic interest.

So I should be careful about having this out of the house or letting too many people know about it

Of course none of this serves to keep anyone safe as 'da yoof' have discovered since the ban on zombie knives that catering suppliers will supply big knives with bright coloured handles for cheap

 

[finbar]

There be better people on here to us of the legality of said bayonet it does not leave the box it was in which is in the loft
So sad the way youth are going all down to drug culture
In a city crime is of the scale shop lifting a none crime now this country is going down hill like a race to the bottom

 

[Foxyboy43]

I sort of hate to do this but since I work with difficult inner city teens my knowledge of what is and isn't an offensive weapon is better than it should be

Weapons designed for the purpose of injury and for which there is no other lawful use - such a a bayonet - are unlawful in a public place at any time and may be unlawful to own full stop.
There is no clear allowance for historic interest.

So I should be careful about having this out of the house or letting too many people know about it

Of course none of this serves to keep anyone safe as 'da yoof' have discovered since the ban on zombie knives that catering suppliers will supply big knives with bright coloured handles for cheap

Not sure why anyone other than with ill intent would be in possession in a public place anyway but….

“Key points about bayonet ownership in the UK:

• Legality of Possession:
  Bayonets are not prohibited per se in the UK, and ownership is generally permitted for historical or collection purposes.
  
  
• Restrictions on Public Possession:
  It is illegal to carry an offensive weapon in a public place without a lawful reason.
  
  
• Selling Restrictions:
  Selling bayonets (and other knives) to individuals under 18 is illegal.
  
  
• Intention Matters:
  The legality of possessing an item like a bayonet can be influenced by the intention behind its possession. If the intention is to use it as a weapon, it could be considered illegal, especially if carried in public without a valid reason.
  
  
• Historical Items:
  Bayonets of historical significance may be exempt from certain restrictions, especially if they are part of a collection or museum display.
  
  
• Modifications:
  Modifying a bayonet to make it more dangerous or to facilitate its use as a weapon can be illegal.
  
  
• Examples of Legitimate Use:
  Bayonets can be legally owned for historical re-enactments, theatrical performances, or as part of a collection, provided they are not used to cause harm. “.
  
  
  

 

[Pedro]

Should you look, you will often see vintage/antique bayonets for sale at auction sites. The likes of which are for WW1 and WW2 rifles (and earlier). The only restriction on buying them from the auction houses are that the buyer is 18 years old or over.

Obviously there are restrictions on the circumstances of possessing one, which which Foxyboy43 so eloquently explains above. But that doesn't exclude owning one outright by any means.

However, if you have a current army issue bayonet, except, of course in the pursuance of your job in the military, all bets are off.

 

[finbar]

Thanks lads it’s just a thing her dad picked up showed me the medal & bayonet & a new ad get a bit of history on them both now back in box in loft

 

[enfieldspares]

"Fix bayonets!" Horrible things. Useful as a bayonet but awful as a knife (most of them) and useless as a tin opener. But with all these things i always say "If only they could talk." Who carried it, what did they do, what happened to them. For the most part some poor lad who'd rather have been elsewhere enjoying a drink with his mates and a laugh with his girl. There'll be some poor kid in North Korea that fits that description likely right now. As others once said "A bayonet is a tool with a worker fixed on it at both ends."

 

[nic531]

As one senior Officer was reported as saying when speaking about his order to Fix Bayonets in the Falklands….. 'That order is a state of mind rather than a tactical decision'

 

[8x57]

" As others once said "A bayonet is a tool with a worker fixed on it at both ends."

I like that. I shall have to remember that.

 

[maximus otter]

Weapons designed for the purpose of injury and for which there is no other lawful use - such a a bayonet…may be unlawful to own full stop.

It is quite legal to own a bayonet which you keep in your own home for non-criminal purposes, e.g. collecting or display.

maximus otter

 

[enfieldspares]

"Remove gloves, draw swords, all four reins the left hand." I did know an old man who did indeed receive that order, with Allenby in Palestine and the Yeomanry. They charged Turkish infantry who broke and ran. He said how he ran one man through. Not like in "War House" as the swords were straight swords. Like a three foot short lance of pointed steel.

He said that the sword went in through the man's back and the point came out of his chest. The clever ones, he said, threw themselves to the ground and tried to hamstring our horses (using their bayonets) which, he said, there was no answer as not being lancers they couldn't reach a man lying on the ground with the issued sword.