Best grouping at 300M

q1. top of the range deer stalking rifle with well tuned loads and a competent shooter? 1/2" to 1" in decent conditions.
q2. there is not really a chambering that shoots inherently better than any other. recoil, bullet choice, ballistic co-efficient, bullet speed start to come into play at 300m. a fast 6.5 chambering would be my choice for 300m.....

apologies for going off topic in my previous post, but i wasn't the first to do so.........

Will a stalking rifle really hold that kind of accuracy at 300m? That's less than 0.3MOA to 0.15MOA. I might get a lucky group around that, but I certainly could not consistently do it.
 
My .243 Win. Sako HB Varminter may have even done better than most. [ One inch squares here.]
I had better sight in those days.
HWH.
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Hi - Out of interest , what sort of magnification on your scope were you using for the above?

Regards Paul.
 
Nice shooting. What could it do at 300m?

I never tried it on a paper target at that distance but I did shoot a few Carrion crows out there with it. Whilst that bullet was very accurate it had very little expansion and it was spectacular to see a crow take off after being shot and shortly afterwards fall dead out of the sky.

HWH.
 
.308 is ballistically proven to be one of the most efficient cartridge designations if not the most efficient full stop! No debate it is fact.
you cannot compare a 7mmrem mag to a 308 at eney distance sorrey the 7mm has a much better trajectorey and much higher bc than a 308 which lobs rounds down rainge 7mm is flat fast and less afected by wind drift 3200fps with a 162g amax will stomp eney 308 at distance
 
you cannot compare a 7mmrem mag to a 308 at eney distance sorrey the 7mm has a much better trajectorey and much higher bc than a 308 which lobs rounds down rainge 7mm is flat fast and less afected by wind drift 3200fps with a 162g amax will stomp eney 308 at distance

What?

7mag is overbore. Might be an idea to do your research before posting nonsense. Also where in my post did I make any reference to 7mag?
 
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Whilst i have had a couple of 7mm Rem Mags and one of them a very accurate custom build the chambering is not at all popular for competitive shooting, it is not the round the 7mm WSM is and never will be, now that is the daddy of the 1000 yard game! I do have to disagree with the comment posted about one calibre not being inherently more accurate that another, take the 6mm BR or the PPC for example, they are both far more accurate than the 243 even though they are all 6mm. Benchrest shooters always go for a variative of the 6mm BR for 300-600 yard shooting and even 1000 at times.
 
A 300m group from my 308 hunting rifle. I'm using this custom rifle for six years now and it is consistent since day one.
edi
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A 300m group from my 308 hunting rifle. I'm using this custom rifle for six years now and it is consistent since day one.
edi
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Very nice shooting Edi.

I put in a similar performance last week with my 7 Rem Mag at 300 yards. As follows:

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Load is 150 grn BT using 67 grns RL22, 215M and 10 thou off. Neck turned (75% clean up) Remington brass. The squares on the target are inch squares. When I measured the group it came out at .234 MOA.

Group was shot in still calm conditions.
 
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Guesty,
showed the rifle on here too often already....some will be sick of it...
she is a late 60's Sako Forester fitted with a 22" Lothar Walther match magnum sporter profile
that I fitted into a ultra light carbon stock with carbon bedding and converted a Howa AICS magazin kit to
be able to run 5 and 10 shot mags. Mostly use a 6.5-20x50 Zeiss scope. Under 10lb complete with moderator.
edi

ps, very nice group jon
 
Edi, that rifle sounds great.
I have that Zeiss on my 223 heavy barrelled rifle and have managed similar consistent accuracy to 300m and more.
However, I hadn't bothered to attempt 'varmint' accuracy with my 6.5mm stalking rifle as I had assumed its lack of weight and skinny barrel would restrict it, but your results have got me thinking.
 
Be very surprised if you could manage a 4.5" group at 300 if 1.5" was your best at 100, certainly not a straight equation for me at least.
 
This was shot a while ago with an RPA Interceptor 6mm BR whilst prone in a field from a harris bipod (no benchrest before anyone says)
 

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I think you have misunderstood my post above. 0.15MOA is roughly 0.15" at 100 yards, or 0.45" at 300yards, or even 0.75" at 500 yards etc. I agree that group size does not increase in this linear fashion, but usually more exponentially.
Lovely rifle though an RPA Interceptor undoubtedly is, is it really a stalking rifle at 11lb for the bare rifle? And is 6mmBR a stalking calibre? Neither aspect meets my definition. A buddy drags his AI with Nightforce x42 around after deer, but I'd hardly call that a stalking rifle either.
My own 223 doesn't meet the definition, but seeing as we are all showing off, here is my own group.
18mm CTC at 497 yards works out at 0.14MOA. Certainly flukey enough to warrant a photo.

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This doesn't really fall into "Grouping" as such, but a crowd of stalkers being given a first taste of long range shooting, with stalking rifles & ammunition, all had first round hits, together with subsequent hits on clay pigeon targets set out @ 600 ........ granted all rifles had been shot through a chrony over 100 yards first, & data produced for holdover & windage, what sort of measurement of accuracy could that be calculated to?
 
View attachment 22715I changed from reloaded 19 too varget,after rezeroing at 100yds I wanted to see what if there was a difference in the drops at 400yds,to be on the safe side not too shoot over the target because I didn't know if varget load would shoot flatter I dialled in 8 clicks,with reloaded 19 it was 10 .5 clicks,I can't do half clicks,it's 10mm per click,only 2 shot group but at 0.750 oai at that range is pretty impressive from a tikka varmint in 25-06.if I had dialled in 11 clicks it would of been 20mm high average,3 clicks at 40mm per click would of gave me another .120mm elevation and would of been bang on the money,you don't have to have a custom rifle to shoot small groups just a heavy barrel and a dam good load,this load one holes and clover leafs at 100yds,tikkas all the way for me.
 
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View attachment 22716Another 400yd 3 shot group,same varget load and 85gr nos bal tips,swirly wind in the valley this day,2 inch group still,would of mullered Charlie if he had showed :D,masking tape about 20mm,enlarge photo so it uprights,my daughter just showed me how to upload photos :lol:
 
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