wont matter to me buddy i wont be using copper and ive a funny feeling itll not come into force
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If on the hill and for red or sika only and where shots under 100m are uncommon, I would choose a .300 Magnum. For mixed woodland and hill with more 100-200 yard shots I would use a 30-06. I find the .30s hit harder than the 6.5s which with the right bullet work but seem less definitive. I haven’t used the “mythical” 270 so can’t say how much better or worse it may be.
If the ban comes in will you just give up then?
nope
Scipio
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have you ever tried the 7mms?
I am currently reading "Bell of Africa" ,and his thoughts on choice of cartridge, and caliber size needed to do the job on even large animals, is quite refreshing.
He has a large emphasis on the weapons and ammos reliability in the conditions they were to be used, (back in the day that was probably a larger issue) but he above all focus on shot placement and bullet construction rather than if he is shooting a .256, .275 or 303.
Now he was a very good shot by all accounts, and in Africa typically shot within 30-40 yards (with iron sights though, i imagine) , so it's not an exact parallel to the modern european deer hunting most of us probably conduct, but he didnt only shoot elephants with brain shoots, he shot a lot of game in general, and he was a keen observer of his tools and methods effectiveness in the field, and on how he could improve things, so his observations are interesting.
I do wonder what he'd chose now, with the current tech available, if he was for example stalking in England, Denmark or on the hill in Scotland or in the alps.
Brave Echo Niner
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You never know, when you actually give Copper/Non Lead a chance you may find it’s not all doom and gloom…
A lot of us have been using it for a long time to just as good, if not better effect than lead. Just find a bullet which matches what your ideal result is from a bullet.
tried it mate , if it was better than lead then it kind of begs the question why did cartridge manufacturers ever bother with lead .............
Availability and cost of lead, hundreds of years of experience of manufacture and use, etc. Copper will always in my view be more expensive as a raw material so frankly, there was no incentive to transition to a more difficult and expensive bullet. Pure economics IMHO
you sure ? you dont imagine lead performs better then ?
My view on Copper - I switched as it was a requirement of the game dealer so I had no real choice. Is it as good as lead - no, is it good enough to kill deer- yes. I appreciate being forced to do something is not a good way but if the only way we can continue to shoot deer is with non toxic then that is how it will be. Crap, but thats life.
thank you for an honest assesment of copper ammo its very refreshing .
He would probably favour the .220 Swift.
My own choice would be 7x57 or 25/06.
I have shot hill reds and bloody big lowland animals with both, no problems. Also shot a lot of highland Reds with .243w.
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