Binoculars
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Thing I’ll struggle ranging targets with just a standard range finder
There was a zeiss prf rangefinder for sale the other day on here I think, really good rangefinder and optics are really good, to the point it can be used as a monocular for spotting as well as a rangefinder
From what I've read and reviews i've watched, the swaros use pretty heavy image flattening in their binos where the leicas dont. Apparently its a great image in the swaros but it can be hard to determine whats closer or further away compared to leicas. I dont own either but ive recently upgraded and this is what I learned doing the research. For what its worth theres some Khales rf binos in the classifieds, I cant imagine they're bad
Cheap and cheerful Revasri and similar badged up "golf" rangefinders ( stand alone) work fine for me and do the job and for around the £30 mark or less are IMHO a no brainer.
Ok i appreciate the niceness of having the function within your normal binoculars but its not something i would pay a premium for.
But then again, i seriously dont think I've missed out by not having "top of the range" binoculars over my stalking career, but each to his own.
Ok i appreciate the niceness of having the function within your normal binoculars but its not something i would pay a premium for.
But then again, i seriously dont think I've missed out by not having "top of the range" binoculars over my stalking career, but each to his own.
One on top of two
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10x42 Leica Geovid 3200.com for me . Just all round class imho .
Ok thank you I’m hoping to get to the stalking show and get a look through some to compare
Stalking fair enough but I would fall short then on competitions wen you are against the clock
shotguntom
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Ive got the Vortex Furys and tbh, there is not much difference between them and the top end glass at low light. Especially now everyone has a thermal spotter, you dont need very top end glass binos in my opinion.
Had Leica Geovid 10x42 HD-B since 2015 - stunning glass and if the battery is good, impressive range finding ability. They are very ergonomic and a pleasure to use but heavy. The Leica Geovid Pro 10x32 I’ve just acquired are equally as good glass-wise but sadly the LRF speed and display on them isn’t as fast and clear as the 2200s. Early days with the 10x32s but so far I’m not discerning any issues with their performance at FL/LL compared to their full-sized brother and whilst the weight loss isn’t as much as the GPO Rangefinder 2800 I also have, they are much less bulky and a delight in the hand. The GPO are very competent but the glass is nowhere as good as the Leica and has a marked blue tinge.
I was trained to use binos to spot and observe so whilst I do use a thermal spotter, where time allows my binos are always used before the glass on my scope - dense woodland stalking being the exception.
I was trained to use binos to spot and observe so whilst I do use a thermal spotter, where time allows my binos are always used before the glass on my scope - dense woodland stalking being the exception.
I very rarely use binos now, certainly very little when hunting deer. They are good for static shooting though when I have the time to look at stuff around me but in terms of efficiency rather than enjoyment, they stay at home more often than not. When I do use them though, I really enjoy it so want the optical experience to be as good as possible.
I have been through the LRF integrated in to Binos saga. It wasn't for me. I had the HDB3000's and genuinely thought they were a poor optic for the money. Heavy, compromised optics, poor ergonomics and hateful lens caps which are appallingly unfit for purpose for an item costing so much. I was lucky that I sold them for barely any loss as the prices kept rising after I bought them. I think I lost literally like £50 on them in a handful of months. The LRF and ballistics are very good though when set up correctly.
I went back to my Ultravid HD's and got a separate Leica rangemaster with the ballistic thingy built in. Optically, proper binos are obviously better to my eye. Lighter and nicer to use in the hand.
For range use like the OP wants, surely you just want quality ranging and the ability to resolve an image of your target rather than out and out optical quality? I certainly would not pay extra for Leica or Swaro optics over something like Vortex, Kahles, Delta etc. All will resolve a decent image and give you a range solution you can trust. I would go with whoever has the best warranty as it is also disgusting that the top end electronic stuff isn't covered by their otherwise attractive warranties. Another reason to sack that technology off when it comes as standard on thermals and cheapo digital scopes these days.
I have been through the LRF integrated in to Binos saga. It wasn't for me. I had the HDB3000's and genuinely thought they were a poor optic for the money. Heavy, compromised optics, poor ergonomics and hateful lens caps which are appallingly unfit for purpose for an item costing so much. I was lucky that I sold them for barely any loss as the prices kept rising after I bought them. I think I lost literally like £50 on them in a handful of months. The LRF and ballistics are very good though when set up correctly.
I went back to my Ultravid HD's and got a separate Leica rangemaster with the ballistic thingy built in. Optically, proper binos are obviously better to my eye. Lighter and nicer to use in the hand.
For range use like the OP wants, surely you just want quality ranging and the ability to resolve an image of your target rather than out and out optical quality? I certainly would not pay extra for Leica or Swaro optics over something like Vortex, Kahles, Delta etc. All will resolve a decent image and give you a range solution you can trust. I would go with whoever has the best warranty as it is also disgusting that the top end electronic stuff isn't covered by their otherwise attractive warranties. Another reason to sack that technology off when it comes as standard on thermals and cheapo digital scopes these days.
Malxwal
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The top end glass comes into its own at distance, and lower light. Day/night scopes and thermal as you say have negated the value there, but for watching nature generally, it's unbeatable.
I think the Sig Sauers, especially the newer models, have the fastest ranging time, and are getting away from the "blue tint" , so might because good option for timed competition.
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