Buying a whole or half a cow in the UK

Nope! I'm going watch the magic roundabout and pretend I'm Zebedee instead👍
What a highly intelligent and well thought out comment about a program that has done a huge amount of good for farming and made a lot of clueless townies realise that the countryside doesn't run itself! Well done! :cuckoo:
 
I’m a beef farmer, ex farm price for a good finished steer is £1500-£1600 by the time you’ve killed and paid all levy’s etc your looking at getting on for £1000 a side. I have about 350-400 head of beef cattle and every other year so kill one for the family. It’s enough beef to keep 8-10 of us going for about 18 months.
I’m not a professional butcher, I can do a roe doe or somthing simple like a lamb in about 20 minutes, but to butcher, pack and mince a side of beef, so half a carcass, takes 2 people a long day. If the animal is a good on spec beast it will weigh 650-700kg and you’ll be looking at a kill out percentage in the high 50%’s you’ll be dealing with around 100kg of mince alone.
All that being said is heartily recommend it, if you have the facility’s to lift the quarters, dry age it and butcher it properly it’s great fun.
It is very important you dispose of all the pluck and waste through the correct channels, but home kill is perfectly legal if all for your own consumption. The chap in the pictures is an ex slaughter man who comes to help me with mine.
The picture of the finished quarters in the chiller show it next to a 25kg lamb carcass for scale.
Amazing, thanks for the detailed information.
 
Thanks for all the replies... has been interesting to hear other peoples experiences.
 
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Tom where abouts are you? I might be able to help you, I can give you what advice you need however boning sides is not something you can pick up off YouTube as most of them do it wrong



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Find your local abattoirs; gov.uk; search for approved food establishments; sort for slaughterhouses and with a bit of research you'll find the ones that do private kills, i.e kills of animals that the farmers keep. Let them know you are interested in a half beef animal and at some point there will be a farmer/smallholder who has animal booked in and they don't know what to do with half of it. Or search for people who sell direct for beef boxes and say you'd be interested in a half animal that you'd collect straight from their abattoir and see what you can negotiate.
 
Weve done it twice now, both times from a local farmer who does meat boxes. He organises everything we just collected. And yes its a lot of meat. Some went to her mothers and our daughter too. But worth while if you've freezer space. Ocaisonially get a Tamworth pig too.
 
We occasionally get a beef box from the farm over the road - Devon Ruby Reds. The amount in a beef box is plenty enough to keep the two of us going for six months and yes, there’s still a lot of mince.

If we sourced half a cow, most of it would end up being kept in the freezer too long.
 
I’m a beef farmer, ex farm price for a good finished steer is £1500-£1600 by the time you’ve killed and paid all levy’s etc your looking at getting on for £1000 a side. I have about 350-400 head of beef cattle and every other year so kill one for the family. It’s enough beef to keep 8-10 of us going for about 18 months.
I’m not a professional butcher, I can do a roe doe or somthing simple like a lamb in about 20 minutes, but to butcher, pack and mince a side of beef, so half a carcass, takes 2 people a long day. If the animal is a good on spec beast it will weigh 650-700kg and you’ll be looking at a kill out percentage in the high 50%’s you’ll be dealing with around 100kg of mince alone.
All that being said is heartily recommend it, if you have the facility’s to lift the quarters, dry age it and butcher it properly it’s great fun.
It is very important you dispose of all the pluck and waste through the correct channels, but home kill is perfectly legal if all for your own consumption. The chap in the pictures is an ex slaughter man who comes to help me with mine.
The picture of the finished quarters in the chiller show it next to a 25kg lamb carcass for scale.
Hmm. Tomh is gonna need a bigger bbq!
 
We occasionally get a beef box from the farm over the road - Devon Ruby Reds. The amount in a beef box is plenty enough to keep the two of us going for six months and yes, there’s still a lot of mince.

If we sourced half a cow, most of it would end up being kept in the freezer too long.
I used to keep Pedigree South Devons, I believe Ruby reds are North Devons, both of them will blow away Aberdeen Angus for taste, as will Red Poll. My wife once was taken to a top end Japanese Restaurant in London, the waiter recommended the Kobe beef, saying it was the best in the world, fed on beer & massaged daily, eaten by the Japanese Emperor etc etc, so she ok I'll try it. Waiter came back & said what did you think about that, she told him she was disappointed & it was not very good. He looked down his nose & said well what would you know about beef? to which she replied My husband is a beef farmer.
If you want the best beef, eat British Native breeds, they have been bred to finish on grass, they cut & eat differently to Continentals, which are drier & stringier, & you will find bits of it stuck in your teeth, also completely lacking in flavour because they are a leaner beef, & usually need to be finished on concentrates. Beef gets it flavour from the fat, British breeds are fattier & self basting, but grass fed animals tend to have a yellow fat which apparently the supermarkets & the housewives doesn't like. I never heard of tasty lean beef. The best eating is a maiden heifer, hung for 32 days, after it comes off the grass late Autumn. And get it delivered to a butcher who can hang it well, joint it down & box it up. A chest freezer takes an awful long time to freeze those boxes down, a good butcher will already freeze them for you, for a better product. Small butchers killing a few animals a day were a blessing, our animal would arrive safely before being shut up in a calf box for a couple of hours to quieten down, before being led quietly into the killing floor. It was important to reduce adrenalin in the meat. Dark purple meat is not well hung, it is a sign of too much adrenalin. I dont know of any Butchers yards now, it has become an industrial process, & a retrograde step imo, if you have one nearby count your blessings, & pay him well.
 
I used to keep Pedigree South Devons, I believe Ruby reds are North Devons, both of them will blow away Aberdeen Angus for taste, as will Red Poll. My wife once was taken to a top end Japanese Restaurant in London, the waiter recommended the Kobe beef, saying it was the best in the world, fed on beer & massaged daily, eaten by the Japanese Emperor etc etc, so she ok I'll try it. Waiter came back & said what did you think about that, she told him she was disappointed & it was not very good. He looked down his nose & said well what would you know about beef? to which she replied My husband is a beef farmer.
If you want the best beef, eat British Native breeds, they have been bred to finish on grass, they cut & eat differently to Continentals, which are drier & stringier, & you will find bits of it stuck in your teeth, also completely lacking in flavour because they are a leaner beef, & usually need to be finished on concentrates. Beef gets it flavour from the fat, British breeds are fattier & self basting, but grass fed animals tend to have a yellow fat which apparently the supermarkets & the housewives doesn't like. I never heard of tasty lean beef. The best eating is a maiden heifer, hung for 32 days, after it comes off the grass late Autumn. And get it delivered to a butcher who can hang it well, joint it down & box it up. A chest freezer takes an awful long time to freeze those boxes down, a good butcher will already freeze them for you, for a better product. Small butchers killing a few animals a day were a blessing, our animal would arrive safely before being shut up in a calf box for a couple of hours to quieten down, before being led quietly into the killing floor. It was important to reduce adrenalin in the meat. Dark purple meat is not well hung, it is a sign of too much adrenalin. I dont know of any Butchers yards now, it has become an industrial process, & a retrograde step imo, if you have one nearby count your blessings, & pay him well.
Spot on. Red Poll lovely
Large Black pigs so much flavour but to much fat for most consumers
 
hi.
speaking as a person who is totally meat self-sufficient the op Idea is in theory a good one,but the amount of meat off a large animal is massive !
another option I came across when visiting a local pig farmer was this.
when we arrived in his yard their was a there legged pig walking around,I asked what had happened to it ?.
well he said one night the house caught fire and we were trapped upstairs,the pig dragged some Ladders up to the window climbed up broke the window with an axe and rescued us.
what happened to it's leg I asked?.
he replied " with a pig that clever you don't eat it all at once".😉
 
My mother's side of the family were involved in farming, slaughtering, butchering ...... since at least the 1800s, and probably before that. The last butcher, my mother's cousin, reckoned the best animal to eat was a heifer that had slipped a calf. Meat tasted better if cooked on the bone, he also reckoned. I had one of mine done and hung for a fortnight. I think my mother's cousin was right!
 
I've done a fair bit of home kill, the vet is only required if you plan on selling meat, if it's for own consumption you can kill and process.
As said above a cow takes some serious work even if only killing, skinning and quartering hardest part for me was cutting down the spine to get the cord out an absolute must if you plan on hanging.
I would say by time you buy a beast drop at butcher to be hung and processed you won't be getting much change out of 3k.
Disposal of bones and waste costs a few quid too.
The work is worth it and it's always better dispatching an animal on its place of life rather than running to abattoir imo.
 

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Like most things, EU red tape is blamed for everything. But if you go to Europe there are plenty of little abbatoirs all over the place. And its up to individual country to interpret and implement EU legislation.

In the UK this has been to endless number clipboard warriors who take a draconian interpretation of all the rules.

So for example veterinary checks pre slaughter to check that animals are fit and healthy along with post carcass inspection is probably sensible. We do it all the time when shooting deer.

But UK interpretation is that its not sufficient for a properly trained slaughterman to do this, or indeed for a veterinary practitioner to pop down to the local butchers little abbatoir - no UK interpretation is that a full time vet has to be employed.

One could be forgiven for thinking that this is big business and supermarkets taking control. Last thing they want is lots of little independents all quite happily doing their own thing and slaughtering local animals for local market - as happens just about everywhere else in the world.

And indeed is what happened all throughout the British Isles.

These days its a few large conglomerates that slaughter and account for large volumes of meat. In the next few years these will likely be based in Australia and US as it will not be cost effective to produce beef in the UK.

Clarkson’s Farm - whether you like him or hate him - has absolutely shown up the bull**** farmers have to face on a daily basis. It is very difficult for farmers to make a living. As I realised the only way to become a millionaire farmer is to either inherit or marry a lot of land and grow houses. Or to make a lot of money elsewhere, start farming and hope the money lasts until its time to shuffle off to pastures new.
 
@Farmer Geddon - how do Angus’s rate in your opinion? Have a mate with a few that I’ve had an eye on for when the time comes!
Absolutely nothing wrong with Aberdeen Angus,where it scores is the marketing, everyones heard of Angus, a premium beef, no ones heard of Devon Hams! We used a Angus Bull on our maiden heifers, it gave an easier time first time calving, Narrower hips.
 
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Aberdeen Angus,where it scores is the marketing, everyones heard of Angus, a premium beef, no ones heard of Devon Hams! We used a Angus Bull on our maiden heifers, it gave an easier time first time calving, Narrower hips. The secret to Native breeds is the marbling of fat in the joints.
 
Hello,

I have never heard about anyone doing this in the UK but I think it is popular in the USA.

I spend some time in Argentina and have become addicted to using the BBQ for big slow cooked chunks of beef. (comes out better than any typical steak in my opinion)
I'm wondering if I can find a more economical way to do this in the UK.

Has anyone got any experience bulk buying like this? (I would think a big chest freezer or 2 in the garage would cover it)
I see some direct to consumer websites offering half a cow but I think they are marking the price up too much.

Best,
Tom

Hello,

I have never heard about anyone doing this in the UK but I think it is popular in the USA.

I spend some time in Argentina and have become addicted to using the BBQ for big slow cooked chunks of beef. (comes out better than any typical steak in my opinion)
I'm wondering if I can find a more economical way to do this in the UK.

Has anyone got any experience bulk buying like this? (I would think a big chest freezer or 2 in the garage would cover it)
I see some direct to consumer websites offering half a cow but I think they are marking the price up too much.

Best,
Tom
I use the services of a slaughter man for my pigs and lambs. I am aware that some local farmers will home slaughter their own steers. There is masses of red tape associated with home slaughter, needles to say everything I do is in accordance with the law. Local abattoirs are closing at an alarming rate and animal welfare is suffering. My lambs and pigs are slaughtered in a stress free environment, for home consumption only.
 

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