Buying or even finding bullets

So update on rant post no. 1 - according to the msg I have just received the 2 boxes of .308 Sierras that wouldn’t be posted to me in NI by a certain mainland RFD, though they were very happy to take my money, are due to arrive at my pal’s house in Scotland tomorrow where I shall collect them next month and hand deliver to my own home in NI 10 days later. Confused? Welcome to my world!
Sorta happy ending to another example of bollo nonsense. Meanwhile 200+ cases brass fittings that I have just bought of this site were posted in England yesterday - breath bated……
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Without wishing to start a panic

I told you so,

It seems that the ammo shortage is really starting to bite. I have mentioned it on this forum before, regardless of ones political point of view there are a number of factors that have caused this.

Pandemic has meant many workers where furloughed or sent home added to that the Suez canal debacle

Brexit and the shortage of haulage drivers is also compounding the issue. Food will take priority over bullets and re loading equipment as well as materials such as lead, brass powder and priming compounds.

The Americans panic buying Glocks, rimfire ammo and re loading equipment. Added to that the new customs law regarding US weapons exports is further compounding this issue.

We are a miniscule market for firearms and components and therefore we are way down on the list of priority for firearm's and ammuntiton imports.

I have a few friends in the trade and RFDs who are all saying the same thing. Get what you can while you can, as we will have much fewer choices in future. I went o a few gun shops recently. Trying getting 20 bore or 410 shells a lot of places are running dry, I'm going to keep all my hulls from now on and consider re loading shot shells, (if I can get primer powder and shot that is!)

RWS/Lupua/SK ammo is almost gone and unlikely to be seen again for the foreseeable future, due to a big price hike in taxation of anything coming from the EU. Paying the same price for a box of RWS club as Tennex, it simply wont sell. So there's practically no point in stocking it. The same will go for Lapua and SK, most likely Vit powders as well. Try getting 17HMR in a few months time, you wont find it anywhere!


I'm at my limit or 1200 rimfire and plan to keep a float of around 1k just in case. I managed to pick up a couple of slabs of shotgun cartridge's.

Hopefully my plans for a small bore centrefire are not skuppered by this shortage

However, all this will end at some point probably sometime mid 2022 although we may well have a lot less choice and have to pay a lot more. It might be wise to invest in single shot rifles or sled mags. As we should all be mindful of our ammo consumption.
 
I was in Wilson and Wilson gun shop Thanet a couple of weeks back they look to have a good stock of various bullets and cases, their website is not great so worth a phone call to them, I think they post out.

I have no connection to them other than a happy customer.
 
Sorta happy ending to another example of bollo nonsense. Meanwhile 200+ cases brass fittings that I have just bought of this site were posted in England yesterday - breath bated……
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If you pay for something and it does not arrive, do you expect the seller to give you a full refund or do you take it on the chin?
 
If you pay for something and it does not arrive, do you expect the seller to give you a full refund or do you take it on the chin?
In fairness I would expect proof of posting/tracked and if that is the case it is clearly my loss. That said I just wonder how many similar orders go awol within GB given that components are a Royal Snail no-no?
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Same on everything. I was going to buy this and buy that. Nobody has anything. Not even a crappy 308 seating die for £25. GRS stock, not in stock. 8 months for an R8 semi weight barrel. 243 80gr TTSX naw

So I am buying nowt and will shoot what I have with what I own.

If the game dealers are only going to take venison shot with non-lead then we will be having a laugh at their expense shortly if we can't get bullets.
I'm not sure I would fully agree, there are enough non-lead bullets around, with regular shipments coming in that people are buying (albeit mostly pre-ordered before they arrive).
Certainly with options like @Edinburgh Rifles Fox offerings as well as the Barnes, Hornady etc ther is enough around even if it isn't quick to get.

I have stocked up a fair few components and will continue to have bits on backorder until I get them so as to have a continuous supply.

It seems to just be a case of order and wait. They'll come eventually.

Ben
 
plenty of non lead and lead here
short on Sierra 6.5 but there are lots of other options

I am confident we have more non lead bullets and ammunition than any other supplier in the UK with another pallet on its way
10s of thousands of most of the popular calibres and weights, low on some but orders on way.
We send out ammo to our trade customers as quickly as we can but its often a challenge keeping on top of the components/consumables as much as the bullets

We are producing and Proofing as many new cartridges so you dont have to wait on sporadic supply from the US
 
Well then. Just spent a very long time on t’internet trying to locate my favourite bullets - Sierra 308 125 gns and Sierra 6.5 120 gns Prohunters - long story short “out of stock” seems to be the story. To my delight I did find an RFD who had the last 2 boxes in the universe of 125gns .308 so delighted with my endeavours I went through the usual rigmarole process and ordered and paid for them. Great, super, delighted… ah, not so fast FB - 10 minutes later I received an email saying:-
“Unfortunately we are currently not shipping any bullet heads to Northern Ireland due the lack of clarity from the government on what they class as 'restricted items', and we run the risk of possibly having the goods confiscated in transit. Generally speaking these types of goods require an export license or special customs forms to be shipped to mainland Europe, and until the government clarifies their position our hands are tied.”.
Soooo the last two boxes were almost mine but at the last moment a certain well-known RFD snatched defeat from the jaws of my victory AND even suggested that this corner of the UK is part of mainland Europe! I am not a political animal in any sense but last time I looked out the window I still lived in the United Kingdom, gosh - I even have a British Passport, my wife is a Londoner and until her retirement was the Regional Manager for the UK Passport Office in Belfast, 15 miles away, maybe someone should spread the word….
Undaunted I pressed on and sent them a response, along the lines of “for Christ’s sake many RFDs are perfectly happy to send brass and bullets to NI so what is different with you?”. Suffice to say nil result so plan B swung smoothly into operation “will you send them to my pal in Perthshire and I will get him to post them?”. And so it was, they are even as we speak winging their way to me via Perthshire. In short some dealers won’t post to me (nothing personal - I hope) but many (thank Christ) will and without any issues or bollo about “confiscations”, bless them. Apart from the clear disappointment I felt, the big question for me is why does such confusion still reign? Maybe it is just me but when I look back over the many successful deliveries I have received over the last 9 months I really do wonder what the hell is going on. Answers on a postcard…..
Apologies for the rant chaps but a certain bodily fluid really is boiling.
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Maybe this is the answer?
Regards
JCS
 
I was parked next to a couple of Irish Free State chaps at the Belvoir game fair a few years ago. They had bought a tent on one of the stands on condition that they could sleep in it for the next two nights to save the entry fees. I mentioned the fact that they were not allowed to reload. "That's right, but we all do". Was the answer! I wonder what their ammo allowances are.
 
Serious question - given that NI is still part of the UK, why are the good folk who live there allowed to possess handguns (in some cases for personal defence as well I think?)?
Steady, a well known YouTube ‘shooting channel’ presenter(?) lost his FAC for his over enthusiasm for owning guns for self protection. Still spouts crap on the internet though
 
Steady, a well known YouTube ‘shooting channel’ presenter(?) lost his FAC for his over enthusiasm for owning guns for self protection. Still spouts crap on the internet though

Just to clarify, I have no great enthusiasm for possession of handguns (or any other firearm) for self protection. I was just wondering why it was allowed in NI (or the Isle of Man or he Channel Islands, I believe?) but not on the mainland...
 
Just to clarify, I have no great enthusiasm for possession of handguns (or any other firearm) for self protection. I was just wondering why it was allowed in NI (or the Isle of Man or he Channel Islands, I believe?) but not on the mainland...
Hmmm. With the greatest respect - you might have greater enthusiasm for “self protection” if, like sadly, many over here, you and/or your family were still considered at risk!
That aside and on a much more cheerful note I am happy to report that club handgun competitions are alive and thriving in NI. Long may it be so.
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Just to clarify, I have no great enthusiasm for possession of handguns (or any other firearm) for self protection. I was just wondering why it was allowed in NI (or the Isle of Man or he Channel Islands, I believe?) but not on the mainland...
Probably because they had their "Molon Labe" stance, and someone with a brain realized if they tried to take them, they'd likely be facing them.

Just a thought from a rustic, radical colonial...
 
Just to clarify, I have no great enthusiasm for possession of handguns (or any other firearm) for self protection. I was just wondering why it was allowed in NI (or the Isle of Man or he Channel Islands, I believe?) but not on the mainland...
Because we don’t have active paramilitaries over on the mainland
 
Probably because they had their "Molon Labe" stance, and someone with a brain realized if they tried to take them, they'd likely be facing them.

Just a thought from a rustic, radical colonial...
Have a look back at modern Irish history and how long the Army were over there. If they wanted to take the legally owned ones they would have. That would have just left the ‘bad guys’ armed, with their illegal ones.
 
A rather naive statement my friend. Many of our “locals” fled in your direction for “health” reasons, a natural segue from their “activities” was a move to supplying substances “injurious to health”.
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I am aware of this but they are not ‘active’ paramilitaries in the same way they are in Ireland or were when the handgun ban came in.
 
Forgot to update post no.41 re brass being delivered to NI. 230 x .308 arrived six days after posting from Englandville. Slow but got here, delighted!
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Have a look back at modern Irish history and how long the Army were over there. If they wanted to take the legally owned ones they would have. That would have just left the ‘bad guys’ armed, with their illegal ones.
I think we'll just disagree on this one. That same argument is used here (that the military/police could take them if they really wanted to), but it doesn't happen because there would be a lot of dead military/police and it would spark an insurrection that no one would survive...kinda like Northern Ireland.
 
I think we'll just disagree on this one. That same argument is used here (that the military/police could take them if they really wanted to), but it doesn't happen because there would be a lot of dead military/police and it would spark an insurrection that no one would survive...kinda like Northern Ireland.
I think we will have to in that case, legally held firearms per capita in Northern Ireland is probably tiny compared to the USA, so not on the same scale.

USA estimates are 120.5 firearms per 100 people, Northern Ireland 11 firearms per 100 people. (Wiki)


The blood baths would not be the same…

Luckily, (hopefully) we’ll never have to find out!
 
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