Clear on Deer - John Muir Trust?

[bladesman]

Has anyone attended 'Clear on Deer' talks: Clear on Deer: Sheffield

I am attending the Sheffield showing this evening and wondered if any of our members had seen earlier showings/discussions and had any opinions?

 

[Envillegc1]

Sounds interesting topic. Where are they coming from?

 

[bladesman]

Sounds interesting topic. Where are they coming from?

Don't know anything about them to be honest. If you click on the link it tells you a little.

 

[opticron1]

I'm a little bemused why they're doing a show about Scottish Deer issues in Sheffield - maybe because the JMT have never been very popular up here after shooting 70 odd stags and leaving them on the hill to go to waste....... It would be nice to see if they offer any positive comments on that one.
Please let us know what the show was like and what Libby Penman's film was like and make sure you leave a "donation".

 

[Envillegc1]

Sounds an interesting talk to be fair.
I wonder if its angled towards a cull?

 

[Island]

Don't know anything about them to be honest. If you click on the link it tells you a little.

They have fallen out with locals, cut ties with their local DMG's, are content to leave stags where they fall on the hillside (>80 in Assynt and more than a handful in Glen Nevis) and obtained OOS and Night Licenses for Quinag under rather "dubious" justifications concerning a handful of scrub holly trees on a blasted wasteland.

Where they are "coming from" is the eradication of deer and the subsequent planting of trees (along with the lucrative grants involved therein).

 

[gixer1]

They have fallen out with locals, cut ties with their local DMG's, are content to leave stags where they fall on the hillside (>80 in Assynt and more than a handful in Glen Nevis) and obtained OOS and Night Licenses for Quinag under rather "dubious" justifications concerning a handful of scrub holly trees on a blasted wasteland.

Where they are "coming from" is the eradication of deer and the subsequent planting of trees (along with the lucrative grants involved therein).

I have booked tickets to go simply to see if or ask these questions….

 

[Island]

I have booked tickets to go simply to see if or ask these questions….

If I were home I would be there with bells on...

 

[Camdig]

This event will be propaganda and a begging bowl event.
They and most other conservation orgs are nothing more than activists trying their best to eradicate deer while preaching about climate while drawing food production subsidies.
I read an article this morning from the Ferrat that tens of thousands of animals have been licensed to death by nature scot what it doesn't divulge is how many of those licences were issued to conservation cartels

 

[bladesman]

I now also have a spare ticket for tonight if anyone wants it! Let me know and i can meet you there around 1845hrs...

 

[spannulman]

Has anyone attended 'Clear on Deer' talks: Clear on Deer: Sheffield

I am attending the Sheffield showing this evening and wondered if any of our members had seen earlier showings/discussions and had any opinions?

Same here, I’m curious to hear what they say. My gf says it’s the same reason i sometimes watch countryfile- just to make myself angry which is apparently my default state.

But it’s free and i am interested in what they might say, even of it differs from my position.

I won’t be wearing my dsc lapel pin but perhaps we should wear some kind of ‘shibboleth’ clothing so we can see who is a fellow traveller? But not full tweed suit…

 

[Ratel]

I won’t be wearing my dsc lapel pin but perhaps we should wear some kind of ‘shibboleth’ clothing so we can see who is a fellow traveller? But not full tweed suit…

I hope you.do.not have a speech defect.

 

[sikamalc]

They have fallen out with locals, cut ties with their local DMG's, are content to leave stags where they fall on the hillside (>80 in Assynt and more than a handful in Glen Nevis) and obtained OOS and Night Licenses for Quinag under rather "dubious" justifications concerning a handful of scrub holly trees on a blasted wasteland.

Where they are "coming from" is the eradication of deer and the subsequent planting of trees (along with the lucrative grants involved therein).

The Assynt foundation borrowed some £500,000 off the Muir Trust when the purchased Assynt. It was the only way they could finalise the purchase on time. No doubt they are regretting them being involved now.

 

[Caberfeidh]

The Assynt foundation borrowed some £500,000 off the Muir Trust when the purchased Assynt. It was the only way they could finalise the purchase on time. No doubt they are regretting them being involved now.

I didn’t realise that it was as much as £500,000. I thought the John Muir Trust provided £50,000 towards the purchase of Glencanisp and Drumrunie estates, and offered £15,000 per year for five years towards management costs.

 

[Island]

The Assynt foundation borrowed some £500,000 off the Muir Trust when the purchased Assynt. It was the only way they could finalise the purchase on time. No doubt they are regretting them being involved now.

And now the ACT are looking to weaponise ScotGov legislation to force a buy out of Quinag from JMT.

All power to them I reckon.

 

[tattie]

I'll be in Ullapool tomorrow night to see this.

Should be interesting I would think.......

 

[User00040]

They have fallen out with locals, cut ties with their local DMG's, are content to leave stags where they fall on the hillside (>80 in Assynt and more than a handful in Glen Nevis) and obtained OOS and Night Licenses for Quinag under rather "dubious" justifications concerning a handful of scrub holly trees on a blasted wasteland.

Where they are "coming from" is the eradication of deer and the subsequent planting of trees (along with the lucrative grants involved therein).

No mention of Balharry and the stag with the swinging jaw?

 

[Island]

No mention of Balharry and the stag with the swinging jaw?

You mean you don't believe the "wasn't us mate, must have been our neighbours or poachers" excuse...?

 

[sikamalc]

I didn’t realise that it was as much as £500,000. I thought the John Muir Trust provided £50,000 towards the purchase of Glencanisp and Drumrunie estates, and offered £15,000 per year for five years towards management costs.

I had two meetings with the local Assynt committe at the time, prior to the purchase, and shortly after. In fact we invited them to the Inchnadamph for a meal on completion of their purchasing it.
Bill Richie and Alistair Mckaskill were the two main players on the committee. I arranged with 7 other stalkers to carry out the initial first two years culling on Assynt. Although there was also a couple of locals also, but they tended to stalk Stack Polly at the far end. All told its some 44,000 plus acres, and the right to roam had just been introduced if I remember rightly.
It was a hard two years. They had a useless Polaris 6 wheel bike, and 2 tupper ware boats for the first year. We towed all our bikes up through out the season.

Stayed in Assynt lodge both years. I can remember it being so cold in the lodge, we took the curtains down to put on the few beds supplied by the locals the first year.

 

[tattie]

I have a spare ticket for tonight in Ullapool if anyone local needs one, as my pal has had to go to Edinburgh with work and will not be able to get back up the road in time.

Cheers