Copper bullets - the limitations

Tip length is included as part of the overall 1.081" bullet length. I don't have any on hand but I would guess it will be around 0.160". You're stable from 1.4 and up. the higher the velocity the more stable you get. Should work well in your gun.
 
According to that chart, only approx. 20% were night-shot back then. Happy to be corrected if there are any modern data, but I'll wager it's more than double that now...
I read more recently that around 80% of all deer in NFE are culled between September and March which suggests the remaining 20% get caught during the spring and summer, when neither night shooting or OOS shooting is taking place.
 
I read more recently that around 80% of all deer in NFE are culled between September and March which suggests the remaining 20% get caught during the spring and summer, when neither night shooting or OOS shooting is taking place.
That's much more like it.
 
I read more recently that around 80% of all deer in NFE are culled between September and March which suggests the remaining 20% get caught during the spring and summer, when neither night shooting or OOS shooting is taking place.

At the risk of de-railing this thread even more, can you show me where you read this please?

You would expect most of the cull to be happening between September-March as that is the (amended) season for culling female deer.

I know that several 'sporting' estates use night and out of season licenses on their woodland blocks, but why is it only an issue when FLS and NatureScot use them?
 
I can’t sorry, but it’s no secret, it is published somewhere within their returns stats, and I did have it confirmed in conversation with a then senior player from within the operation. It was more recent than 2013.

I've not made any mention of it being an issue, I was just putting it forward as a matter of fact, following Carl‘s remark about the proportions.
 
I had the chance to use the Fox 130g out of the .270 yesterday most were H&L shots last was a neck shot after I was happy the muntys would drop to the shot and none were runners, so I was sure they did expand as informed , as said the last was a neck shot and the trauma within the neck reconfirmed the same as the chest shots very happy to move on and continue with The copper Fox bullets.
And have to say Thanks to Ed for the load data :tiphat:
running at
2936 fps
SD 3.1
58 gr - R22
With Eds AOL of 79.50 ,
This is less than Fox's Oal data same load .
 
Indeed and of the 35g hornet-friendly variety.

K
Maybe worth a look, if they can be had ?


 
I had the chance to use the Fox 130g out of the .270 yesterday most were H&L shots last was a neck shot after I was happy the muntys would drop to the shot and none were runners, so I was sure they did expand as informed , as said the last was a neck shot and the trauma within the neck reconfirmed the same as the chest shots very happy to move on and continue with The copper Fox bullets.
And have to say Thanks to Ed for the load data :tiphat:
running at
2936 fps
SD 3.1
58 gr - R22
With Eds AOL of 79.50 ,
This is less than Fox's Oal data same load .
So does this mean that our spaniel owning friend may try some non toxic rounds?
 
Tip length is included as part of the overall 1.081" bullet length. I don't have any on hand but I would guess it will be around 0.160". You're stable from 1.4 and up. the higher the velocity the more stable you get. Should work well in your gun.

Great. I'm going to work on two 85 gr loads for roe deer (Barnes / copper and Partition / lead). Hopefully point of aim will be similar.
 
Great. I'm going to work on two 85 gr loads for roe deer (Barnes / copper and Partition / lead). Hopefully point of aim will be similar.
Are you planning the 85 TSX? People seem to be getting better expansion and performance with the TTSX. They offer an 80gr which should be plenty for Roe.
 
I had the chance to use the Fox 130g out of the .270 yesterday most were H&L shots last was a neck shot after I was happy the muntys would drop to the shot and none were runners, so I was sure they did expand as informed , as said the last was a neck shot and the trauma within the neck reconfirmed the same as the chest shots very happy to move on and continue with The copper Fox bullets.
And have to say Thanks to Ed for the load data :tiphat:
running at
2936 fps
SD 3.1
58 gr - R22
With Eds AOL of 79.50 ,
This is less than Fox's Oal data same load .
I shot two roe with the fox hunters at the weekend and agree, good expansion, quick death, good blood trail. Will skin the carcass and post pics later this week
 
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