paul o'
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Defo Not his keeper lolI do like it when couples use the same ammunition...
Nor am I a sheep
Copper bullets - the limitations
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IrishStalker
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haven't seen prices for the copper bullets here in Ireland yet, any of ye have a price range from the UK for common caliber's.
CarlW
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They are a little bit more expensive, but - in my opinion - not enough to matter. My own concerns with copper bullets relate more to welfare and freedom-of-choice issues.
Take a look at 1967Spud for relative pricing in the UK.
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IrishStalker
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just had a look ya don't mind the price a such, its the welfare of the animal i'm afraid of will they be up to the same standards of your conventional lead bullets.They are a little bit more expensive, but - in my opinion - not enough to matter. My own concerns with copper bullets relate more to welfare and freedom-of-choice issues.
Take a look at 1967Spud for relative pricing in the UK.
The UK's #1 Reloading Kit Supplier | 1967Spud Reloading Supplies Ltd
All the kit here
CarlW
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There's a few good threads with discussions on the subject. Have a browse. I am a sceptic and quite resistant to copper; however, there are several people on here whose views I respect that have been using them to good effect for many years.
Dunwaters
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They’re about 50 Euro a box when you can find them.
Norfolk Deer Search
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You want copper got to reloading solutions I paid £47 a box spud wants £60 for BarnesThey are a little bit more expensive, but - in my opinion - not enough to matter. My own concerns with copper bullets relate more to welfare and freedom-of-choice issues.
Take a look at 1967Spud for relative pricing in the UK.
The UK's #1 Reloading Kit Supplier | 1967Spud Reloading Supplies Ltd
All the kit here
paul o'
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I like my toys to reach and tap em at 1000 + under that is Bayonet practice
Carl you are definitely slowing coming round!
mereside
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Anyone tried Pritz?
They look like arrow heads!!!
mereside
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Just cut to expand, they look interesting
Just some feedback and a question,
118grn VLR4 at 100m 5 shot average fps 2936, ES 11, at COL 76.7mm - 83 thou jump fantastic 7mm group ctc.
Now the question Nielson Sonic 120 which all the equations say should be stable in 1 in 8.3 twist goes in sideways at 2850fps, range =100m.HOW? WHY?
118grn VLR4 at 100m 5 shot average fps 2936, ES 11, at COL 76.7mm - 83 thou jump fantastic 7mm group ctc.
Now the question Nielson Sonic 120 which all the equations say should be stable in 1 in 8.3 twist goes in sideways at 2850fps, range =100m.HOW? WHY?
The deer man
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For interests sake only these are some Barnes TTSX bullets I dug out of our range backstop last w/e after some testing.
My concern would be, relying on expansion at anything below 2,200fps for a humane and quick kill with any of these wouldn't be advisable.
The .308 really did perform the closest to a cup/core bullet but at range of 300m (even 250m) it's fallen off way too much to keep this up but may well be adequate. The 6.5x55 100g's appear to mushroom nicely with a bit of velocity to spare for further distance. The 120g's at just over 2,500fps were already showing signs that at further range they would be coming up against their limitations.
If the 6.5 bullets were more accurate I would do this test at 200m and 300m but their accuracy is so shite they might hit my chrono!
My concern would be, relying on expansion at anything below 2,200fps for a humane and quick kill with any of these wouldn't be advisable.
The .308 really did perform the closest to a cup/core bullet but at range of 300m (even 250m) it's fallen off way too much to keep this up but may well be adequate. The 6.5x55 100g's appear to mushroom nicely with a bit of velocity to spare for further distance. The 120g's at just over 2,500fps were already showing signs that at further range they would be coming up against their limitations.
If the 6.5 bullets were more accurate I would do this test at 200m and 300m but their accuracy is so shite they might hit my chrono!
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QL has underestimated the pressure and in fact the higher velocity is down to higher pressure. Without proper pressure testing equipment you just don’t know!
Getting great accuracy in my 260 rem with 100 grain ttsx ( 1-8 twist ) by that I mean sub moa most often 0.5 moa out to 250 yards . Not got as good from 120s but haven't messed with that load much as I only bought a single box of 50, none the less I haven't seen bigger groups than moa . I will be pushing the speed a bit though haven't bothered to chrono yet I just went up till I found a stiff bolt and extractor marks as is my common practice then backed off ( on a hit day ) I don't recommend the practice to others just saying what I do
100 expand really well , 120 expand similar at the front but being longer you get more of a shank on them . Every expanded round recovered 100% weight retention into soft peaty ground again only out to 250 yards but thats further than most sporting folks shoot deer anyhow .
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