CZ drops 22 hornet and 204 ruger

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Just looking at the 2021 CZ catalogue and note that a lot of CZ527 models have been discontinued
These include CZ 527 Synthetic, CZ 527 American, CZ 527 Varmint MTR, CZ 527 Varmint and CZ 527 Varmint Laminated.
None of the remaining models are available in 22 hornet or 204 ruger
I also received an e mail from CZ saying that they had bought Colt

CZG – Česká zbrojovka Group SE to acquire Colt

CZG – Česká zbrojovka Group SE (“CZG” or “the Group”) hereby informs that on 11 February 2021, it signed a definitive agreement to acquire 100% of the outstanding equity interest in Colt Holding Company LLC (“Colt”), the parent company of U.S. firearms manufacturer, Colt’s Manufacturing Company...
www.czg.cz www.czg.cz

Cheers

Bruce
 
Wow, that is interesting news about Colt. This CZ Group already own the CZ and Brno Rifles brands plus they own Dan Wesson, so they are already active in the United States. but it is interesting that Colt, such a historical firm and so close to the US military, would be seen to be dispensable enough to allow a foreign owner.
 
mealiejimmy said:
Just looking at the 2021 CZ catalogue and note that a lot of CZ527 models have been discontinued
These include CZ 527 Synthetic, CZ 527 American, CZ 527 Varmint MTR, CZ 527 Varmint and CZ 527 Varmint Laminated.
None of the remaining models are available in 22 hornet or 204 ruger
I also received an e mail from CZ saying that they had bought Colt

CZG – Česká zbrojovka Group SE to acquire Colt

CZG – Česká zbrojovka Group SE (“CZG” or “the Group”) hereby informs that on 11 February 2021, it signed a definitive agreement to acquire 100% of the outstanding equity interest in Colt Holding Company LLC (“Colt”), the parent company of U.S. firearms manufacturer, Colt’s Manufacturing Company...
www.czg.cz www.czg.cz

Cheers

Bruce
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CZ had a customer in me, key word had. Never easy to come by and never a low cost but quality. Buying Colt will prove a huge mistake.
 
Muir said:

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Regarding 527 discontinuations.
Not according to this 2021 catalog.~Muir
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OK, that's the CZ USA catalogue.
22 hornet is not listed in this 2021 catalogue
katalogy.czub.cz

2021 Product Catalogue

This interactive publication is created with FlippingBook, a service for streaming PDFs online. No download, no waiting. Open and start reading right away!
katalogy.czub.cz katalogy.czub.cz
I believe this catalogue lists the models available in UK and Europe.

Also, this newsletter list the discontinued models

NEW PRODUCTS IN 2021

www.czub.cz www.czub.cz


Cheers

Bruce
 
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Shame they are slimming down the CZ527 Range.

I do reckon CZ want Colt so they can get into the same place as FNH and do will supplying the US DoD.
 
Daddy The Skunk said:
.Buying Colt will prove a huge mistake.
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Not in the case of Colt Canada, they have a good reputation for quality but I'm afraid I will have to agree with you about Colt in the U.S. they started to go downhill some years ago. Perhaps CZ will be able to revitalise Colt in the U.S.
 
Diemaco, before their purchase by Colt, were the manufacturer selected by MOD to supply a number of their C7 rifles and C8 carbines to our SF community. You can imagine this wasn't a spur of the moment decision. Diemaco were manufacturing Colt products under licence at the time - except they were making them better than Colt! So Colt bought them, partly because of the military contracts Colt were losing out on to Diemaco. Even now, Colt Canada continue to be chosen for weapon upgrades and new contracts (e.g. L119A1).

And Colt aren't even in the running for the potential weapon to replace the M16/M4 family of weapons with a new 6.8mm caliber family of rifle/carbine/LMG.

Hope CZ had a good look at the order books before they signed the cheque.
 
"Hope CZ had a good look at the order books before they signed the cheque."

I dare say they did and are also probably taking a bit of a gamble. I'm sure I read somewhere that the Royal Marines are dumping that useless pile of crap that they are currently using (SA80) and issuing the L119A1 to all. Yes I know that's only 7.500 or so rifles but If so I'm sure it won't be too long before the other services will want to do the same.
 
A friend of my sons was once a production manager at Colt. He quit because the firm wouldn't replace some machinery that had been in service - often held together by iron strapping bolted arcoss the cracks in the castings- since the 1800's. I wouldn't have touched Colt with a 10 ft pole.~Muir
 
mealiejimmy said:
OK, that's the CZ USA catalogue.
22 hornet is not listed in this 2021 catalogue
katalogy.czub.cz

2021 Product Catalogue

This interactive publication is created with FlippingBook, a service for streaming PDFs online. No download, no waiting. Open and start reading right away!
katalogy.czub.cz katalogy.czub.cz
I believe this catalogue lists the models available in UK and Europe.

Also, this newsletter list the discontinued models

NEW PRODUCTS IN 2021

www.czub.cz www.czub.cz


Cheers

Bruce
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I can't open the catalog but I believe you. I wonder if they are paring down their in house operations. All the US rifles are assembled in Kansas City, Kansas at CZ USA.

So it's not like they don't make them anymore. They are just not marketed in Europe / UK. I'm sure one could be ordered somehow. I have eight of them at last count. The odd thing is my threaded 6.5 Grendel Varmint. It has a steel V-bl;ock bedding system and I have yet to encounter another person who owns one with that system. I think I just got the 2020 version and perhaps other's rifles predate it, but it's strange. Conversed with a fellow in Rome who bought the same rifle, brand new before Christmas, and his does not have that bedding system.~Muir

PS: IF the issue is devoting manpower to assemble them, perhaps someone in the UK could set up to do it. "CZ-UK" or the like??
 
On one overseas job, I drove a Renault 4. Allegedly, all the parts were made in France and shipped to Morocco where they were assembled. Let's just say it was the worst, most unsafe car I have ever driven. I even had to use a wall as an emergency brake, when the real brakes failed. I am sure a French-assembled version would have been marginally better.

For some time, Colt have been contracting out production of many major parts of the M4/16 family and assembling them/badging them with the rampant pony. They lost their manufacturing reputation some time ago.
 
It's a strange world.
If what Biden is proposing were applied to the UK, we'd all be happy with such major relaxations to our gun laws.
In the USA, his proposals will be seen by many as a direct attack on one of their most cherished freedoms
I think it's likely that the same thing will happen to his proposal as happened with Trumps impeachment trial.
The house of Representatives will pass it and there will be a majority for it in the Senate, but not a big enough majority for it to become law.
Of course, the Dems could grow a set of balls and get rid of the filibuster, so only simple majority would be needed for it to become law

Cheers

Bruce
 
bfltd0 said:
On one overseas job, I drove a Renault 4. Allegedly, all the parts were made in France and shipped to Morocco where they were assembled. Let's just say it was the worst, most unsafe car I have ever driven. I even had to use a wall as an emergency brake, when the real brakes failed. I am sure a French-assembled version would have been marginally better.

For some time, Colt have been contracting out production of many major parts of the M4/16 family and assembling them/badging them with the rampant pony. They lost their manufacturing reputation some time ago.
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Are you sure? I wouldn't of been in a rush to drive even the French built one.
 
8x57 said:
Not in the case of Colt Canada, they have a good reputation for quality but I'm afraid I will have to agree with you about Colt in the U.S. they started to go downhill some years ago. Perhaps CZ will be able to revitalise Colt in the U.S.
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I do hope so but it will take getting the unions to stop being obstructive not to mention embracing civilian sales again.
 
mealiejimmy said:
If what Biden is proposing were applied to the UK, we'd all be happy with such major relaxations to our gun laws.
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A bit surprised by this. Even in the UK a magazine capacity restriction wouldn't qualify as a "major relaxation", and how anyone thinks the notion of suing gunmakers for crimes committed with their products is just (unless you want to add in every manufacturer of everything hard, heavy or pointy enough to cause injury) is beyond me. The "assault rifle" rhetoric is basically guff, too, as witnessed by California's contortions over the years. Just for once, whether in the USA or UK, I'd like to see policy based on addressing the causes of violent acts rather than on banning the inanimate objects used to commit some of them.
 
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