Myster Fied
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Had a look at a couple of models at the game fair but looking for recommendations to fit my Sako P49s.
Day / Night Scope
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Myster Fied
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Thanks, the Wulf4k looks good out of these, i know you can't expect too much but how does it perform in daylight, focussing etc.
5 shot group at 100 yards with a 22-250 and Wulf 4k at maximum (x24) magnification
More than enough target detail and clarity
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Bruce
Antonyweeks
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Quick one - looking at scope for night time boar. Considering the Puslar C50, Infiray TD50L and the Wulf 4k. The Wulf and Infiray are much cheaper and from Youtube videos seem comparable. I won't be doing a lot of night shooting and need something with a 30mm tube. Anyone have experience of any of these 3?
Definitely the Pulsar C50
It will need little or no IR light compared to the Wulf or TD50L and the less IR you use, the less chance there is of spooking boar
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Bruce
It will need little or no IR light compared to the Wulf or TD50L and the less IR you use, the less chance there is of spooking boar
Cheers
Bruce
Yes had all 3 together recently. Kept the C50 and the Wulf 4K (now have 3 of them), but sold the Infiray TD50L as it was inferior.
Hi Bruce
Was thinking about getting a Wulf, screen, zoom etc are all good but the ballistic calculator and rangefinder seem to be well out according to a few reviews I have read, has the latest update fixed this at all and how are you getting on with it?
On a side note, how would you compare it's night time capacity to the Sightline N470s ?
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that is another option I was thinking of with a Sirius on top, 2nd hand 5-20 ATN's coming in at just over £400 on fleabay.
Night òwl
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Some hate them, personally I've found it a very capable unit over last couple of years
The Wulf does not have a ballistic calculator
if you want a scope with that feature, you have 2 choices:
a. ATN X Sight with an ABL 1000 rangefinder physically attached to the X Sight and linked to it by bluetooth
b. PARD NV008S LRF which is much smaller, neater and cheaper option. The PARD ballistic calculator has been shown to work accurately other than at very short ranges (less than 7 or 8 yards)
None of the digital day/night scopes e.g Wulf 4k, ATn X Sight, Wraith HD and 4K, PARD 008 or even the Pulsar Digex C50 are as good as the Sightline N470S at night.
Cheers
Bruce
J@son
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I’ve got the wulf4k on my .22 rimfire. I think it is an excellent bit of kit. It allows you to preset four zeros - which I have set at 30, 50, 75 and 100m and toggling between these is very easy. Perfect rabbit set up in my case. As @mealiejimmy writes in daytime mode the magnification is easily clear enough to hit the head of a drawing pin at 75 to 100m and night time IR setting is equally impressive. I wouldn’t want it on my stalking rifle but that’s not what it is really designed for. With a torch upgrade you’ll be able to hit foxes out to about 350m without too much difficulty.
Thanks Bruce, below are two articles that mention the scope having a BC, as well as the scope manual and other sales sites. Is it an option they have discontinued??
The "ballistic calculator" in the Wulf 4k is more commonly (and correctly) known as a "stadiametric rangefinder"
This is a very common feature on digital scopes (because it's cheap and easy to do and is a good sales pitch for people who don't understand this stuff) but frankly it's a complete and utter waste of time and I don't know anyone who actually uses it successfully
With a stadiametric rangefinder ther will normally there be a choice of target sizes, typically rabbit fox and deer. let's say you are shooting rabbits, so you select the "ballistic calculator" for rabbits. All that happens is that a horizontal line will appear in the display some distance below the horizontal stadia of the reticle
When you see a rabbit (perfectly side on and showing the full depth of its body) you position the horizontal stadia of the reticle on the top of the rabbits back and use one of the scope controls to position the lower line along the bottom of the rabbits body. With that done, an estimate of the range to the rabbit will be displayed
Can you see the problems?
1. The rabbit has to remain stationary while you do all this stuff
2. The rabbit has to be side on and the full depth of it's body visible
3. Is it a big rabbit, a small rabbit or something in between ?
Even then then the range displayed is only a very, very rough estimate - not nearly accurate enough for head shooting rabbits with an air rifle
A "real" ballistic calculator needs a laser rangefinder to provide one of the bits of information needed to calculate the trajectory of the bullet and hence calculate an aiming point. The Wulf 4k does not have a laser rangefinder and does not have the facility to connect to an external laser rangefinder
Wulf is one of the trade names that belongs to the UK company Elite Optical - probably better known to you as Optics warehouse.
The Wulf 4k is made in China for Elite Optical and the Wulf logo printed on it
This is the Wulf 4k page on the Optics Warehouse website WULF 4K 3-24x Day & Night Vision Rifle Scope
If you read the description, there is no mention of a ballistic calculator, but near the bottom of the page it states that it has a stadiametric rangefinder.
The Wulf 4k has never had a ballistic calculator
I think the people telling you it has a ballistic calculator are either describing another scope (X Sight 4k or PARD 008S LRF) or they don't know what they are talking about.
Cheers
Bruce
J@son
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Exactly right. And as @mealiejimmy writes i think this feature is pretty pointless - offering a approximate guide to distance based on the height of the thing you are looking at - with different options for rabbits, boar and deer. Well that’s what your eyes are for, isn’t it? I can’t imagine ever using this feature. But i wouldn’t let this put you off the Wulf which, in my view, is a good value IR/daylight scope. My biggest criticism of it is that you cannot remove the battery for charging. Instead you have to charge the scope itself from a power point. This isn’t a huge problem for me as, once fully charged, the built-in battery lasts long enough for a night’s rabbit shooting but being able to carry a spare battery and change over in the field would be good.
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