For Sale: De Lisle Carbine 45ACP. CATCHES EMPTIES

[Saracen666]

I'm looking to sell my De Lisle Carbine, based on a No.4 action.
Rebarrelled about 200 rounds ago, and it wasn't cheap!
As mentioned, it catches empties, has micrometer adjustable sights.

It's a very rare version.
£2500.

 

[chriswjx]

I believe, unless a trade member, all sales posts must have a price stated publicly.

 

[Roebuck]

Price would be good?Iconic weopen!

 

[buckalec66]

Loving this!…price please?

 

[Saracen666]

I'll sort it now.
An oversight on my part.

 

[Saracen666]

Done.

 

[billgatese30]

Who was the builder?

 

[Saracen666]

Who was the builder?

This is a bit of a mystery. Chris Goodwin (who rebarrelled it) has eliminated LEI, Armalon, and the guy up in Scotland ( I'm not sure of his name, but he built a few De Lisles ). He seems to think it was built in the 60's, and commented that whoever built it did a really good job of matching both sets of baffles. He also mentioned that they'd used copper gauze within the outer baffles themselves. He himself used a Lothar Walther barrel when he replaced the original. That was a fairly complex job in itself.

 

[Martiniblack577]

What calibre? Thanks

 

[Saracen666]

What calibre? Thanks

45ACP, as mentioned in the title.

 

[Martiniblack577]

I’m struggling how the rifle can be called a De Lisle when it’s not a SMLE action and the mag/ sights are incorrect. Its value is far lower.

 

[Saracen666]

I’m struggling how the rifle can be called a De Lisle when it’s not a SMLE action and the mag/ sights are incorrect. Its value is far lower.

It's not difficult to work out, because as noted, it's built in the spirit of the De Lisle, and is actually worth more than the many recently built versions worldwide. The fact mine is built on a No4 action, with the facility to catch empties , is more usable, more accurate, and more unique than the SMLE versions ; I know, I've shot a number of them.
There's your answer.
What you said is on a par with the new Browning Hi Powers not having interchangeable parts with the original 1935 FN version, though they are remarkably similar. Same name, a bit different.
The SMLE versions you see built in recent years shouldn't be called a De Lisle with your reasoning, as the originals are Section 5, not so the recent UK versions.

 

[Martiniblack577]

Well, value is indeed in the eye of the beholder but I think you underestimate the expectations of a De Lisle purchaser who would rather spend £500 more for a historically accurate rifle. However, good luck with your sale.

 

[Saracen666]

Absolutely, but the figure of £500 is somewhat ridiculous. It cost £1550 having it rebarrelled, the machining on the bolt, the construction of baffle system, proofing, uniqueness, plus being historically correct doesn't apply to SMLE versions built in recent times, as they are only partly correct, as they aren't Section 5. You won't find a new De Lisle, as they don't exist.

 

[Martiniblack577]

Barbican’s De Lisle gets my vote. For £500 more . CES was a nice touch too.

 

[buckalec66]

Barbican’s De Lisle gets my vote. For £500 more . CES was a nice touch too.

Sorry, what is CES?

 

[Lever357]

It's not difficult to work out, because as noted, it's built in the spirit of the De Lisle, and is actually worth more than the many recently built versions worldwide. The fact mine is built on a No4 action, with the facility to catch empties , is more usable, more accurate, and more unique than the SMLE versions ; I know, I've shot a number of them.
There's your answer.
What you said is on a par with the new Browning Hi Powers not having interchangeable parts with the original 1935 FN version, though they are remarkably similar. Same name, a bit different.
The SMLE versions you see built in recent years shouldn't be called a De Lisle with your reasoning, as the originals are Section 5, not so the recent UK versions.

I fail to see how you think it's worth more than other versions of the DeLisle, which are a more accurate representation than your version. The Barbican Armoury DeLisles I have seen certainly look very much like the original, shoot very accurately and can even come with a canvas gun slip produced by the original manufacturer in India.
Good luck with the sale. Its a niche market and I think a prospective buyer would want as accurate a replica as they can get.

 

[Saracen666]

The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and is a similar situation to having a limited edition of a car ; not original, but an improved variation of a theme.
My one is more accurate, more fun to shoot with, more unique, and historical accuracy takes a back seat.