Dealer Mark Up

[49ERIC]

I Buy retail from the USA Pay shipping and TAX IT always works out CHEAPER ,, some times the Same Item CAN cost X2 or even 3X More Here in the
UK. ???? Why is THAT ...... '' Anyone

On what ?

US OPTICS 3,5-17x 50 t pal uk £3500+ US £1750 DILLON XL 650 Save £100

 

[chrisc]

i think you will find it is not the dealer making all the profit but the importer .

 

[shrek1]

US OPTICS 3,5-17x 50 t pal uk £3500+ US £1750 DILLON XL 650 Save £100

Is that not made in the US ?

 

[shrek1]

i think you will find it is not the dealer making all the profit but the importer .

 

[timbrayford]

This is true. I paid the same in Euros for a rifle in the Eurozone this year that it costs in the UK in pounds. The bureaucracy was a pain, but it was a relatively expensive rifle, so I saved quite a lot of money.

I do feel that the UK is a high-consumer-cost economy, but don't understand why.

Blaser rifles on sites like Frankonia seem to be priced around 20% lower than in the UK, if any Blaser dealers read this perhaps they could clarify if the manufacturers use opportunity pricing here?

 

[kes]

To compare prices of tractors or guns in the USA with GB is just showing your inability to understand world markets, some things you need to look at
Compare number of guns sold in the UK to the USA, gun dealers import 1000s at a time, the UK would be in the 100s, more guns means bigger discounts
The tractor market in the USA is massive in comparison to the UK, Jd is the main tractor on most farms, also you have to take into account the tax relief given on us tractor sales.
There is also a trade agreement regarding tariffs between Japan and the USA , which does not include the EEC.
all these factors affect new and secondhand goods.

My inability to understand then extends to Germany where JD tractors are sold almost new £1000's cheaper than here. you just need to check a few sites yourself - European markets ? Your view is perhaps simplistic and stereotypical, there is a lot of money to be made. GMK didnt manage to do what they have done on a pittance of profit. It isnt just second hand its geographical and we pay significantly more.

 

[RED-DOT]

A new meaning to Treasure Island?

 

[Pedro]

You can buy a Triumph motorcycle cheaper in the USA than from spitting distance from where they are made.

 

[nun_hunter]

well that doesn't explain the price differentials for things like German cars/scope/rifles made in Europe but for sale in the US an 1/2-2/3 of the exchanged price in sterling

An American (born in Ukraine but lived in Ohio for 20 years) I met on holiday in Mexico said German cars are cheap there because Americans just wouldn't pay what we do for them here due to their love of American brands and the cheap prices of these home built cars. The German cars will sell for £40k here but not in America, however they have a big market and so it's better to sell 1000's of cars at a lower profit margin than sell no cars at all.

 

[JTO]

I think the thing that sticks in peoples' throats is that you get c1.6 dollars for £1 but a Dollar buys the same in the US as a Pound buys here.

 

[kes]

I think the thing that sticks in peoples' throats is that you get c1.6 dollars for £1 but a Dollar buys the same in the US as a Pound buys here.

So true !

 

[smullery]

This is true. I paid the same in Euros for a rifle in the Eurozone this year that it costs in the UK in pounds. The bureaucracy was a pain, but it was a relatively expensive rifle, so I saved quite a lot of money.

I do feel that the UK is a high-consumer-cost economy, but don't understand why.

Pothunter,

Because wages are too high in the UK. It's the taxation (PAYE & NII) that fund the state.

We need high income to meet a living standard that we all aspire to.

Stan

 

[slider]

While not really wanting to defend dealers - whether guns, cars or whatever, there a few thinks we need to understand that mean dealers costs are higher - therefore he needs a margin.

As mentioned in the previous post - labour costs are high - factor in another 20% on top of basic wage to cover holiday pay, national insurance etc.
Property costs - rent or mortgage for both business premises and dealer home are higher - mainly down to our high population density which means land is expensive
Tax system is different in every country
Fuel cost in UK to get goods to the dealers are way above US and much of Europe.
Costs of regulation (UK seems to gold plate every rule) are high - Dealers licences, Public Liability insurance etc.
Everything the dealer buys for business or personal consumption is also dearer here - therefore he needs more income (vicious circle)
Rates - property & business - no idea how this works abroad however

As an aside, I don't know many RFD's that live in mansions and drive Ferarri's

 

[limulus]

...and then has to pay 20% VAT to HMRC on his selling price....

either way the dealer doesn't get charged the vat

 

[shrek1]

either way the dealer doesn't get charged the vat

What has that to do with dealer profit ?

 

[shrek1]

I am well aware how vat works having to claim and pay it !

 

[limulus]

Nowt to do with dealer profit, just some people saying they have to put 20% vat on etc as if it's a loss to them.

 

[shrek1]

While not really wanting to defend dealers - whether guns, cars or whatever, there a few thinks we need to understand that mean dealers costs are higher - therefore he needs a margin.

As mentioned in the previous post - labour costs are high - factor in another 20% on top of basic wage to cover holiday pay, national insurance etc.
Property costs - rent or mortgage for both business premises and dealer home are higher - mainly down to our high population density which means land is expensive
Tax system is different in every country
Fuel cost in UK to get goods to the dealers are way above US and much of Europe.
Costs of regulation (UK seems to gold plate every rule) are high - Dealers licences, Public Liability insurance etc.
Everything the dealer buys for business or personal consumption is also dearer here - therefore he needs more income (vicious circle)
Rates - property & business - no idea how this works abroad however

As an aside, I don't know many RFD's that live in mansions and drive Ferarri's

Well said !
l have a 6000ft unit here are some costs that I can think off.
Rates 50k
Electric 10k
wages 75k
phone 2k
insurance 3k
plus these that I don't know of hand
credit card charges,sick pay,banking charges,alarm,fire alarm,fire extinguisher servicing,motoring costs,accounts fees,waste removal,and any repairs plus I have to buy the stock and I would like some food on my table as well.

 

[shrek1]

Limulus

 

[simonl]

You can buy a Triumph motorcycle cheaper in the USA than from spitting distance from where they are made.

Except it's Left Hand Drive