Deer Dog Trainer Wanted

[JabaliHunter]

I think it depends on whether you want a dog that will sit in the car and be let out to find a lost deer, or if you want a dog that is quiet and calm enough to stalk alongside you through woodland or lie at the base of a seat.

 

[stone]

I think it depends on whether you want a dog that will sit in the car and be let out to find a lost deer, or if you want a dog that is quiet and calm enough to stalk alongside you through woodland or lie at the base of a seat.

So that is any properly trained hunting dog from the right lines then and many more besides

 

[JabaliHunter]

So that is any properly trained hunting dog from the right lines then and many more besides

If that's the case, what's the point of all the various breeds?

 

[RS8000]

Many thanks one and all. Your input is very much appreciated......

Cheers - Bob

 

[Caberhill]

What you planning then Bob you going to give the spaniel a go as a deer dog or hold out for something else?

Cheers,

 

[sikadog]

RS8000 I ran a cocker as a deer dog for 8 years and we only lost one deer.
Miffy runs his cocker bitch on deer as well.
We are only just down the road from you. PM me your phone number and I will give you a ring.

 

[stone]

If that's the case, what's the point of all the various breeds?

Because we are all different , be boring otherwise
Best wishes

 

[cockerdog]

Have to have my two penneth worth on this one, yes there are purpose bred deer dogs and yes in the correct hands they will be brilliant, but so will and Lab, springer or Cocker.
I have 3 Cockers and all work deer, yes they are like a box of frogs on a sugar high, but train them right and they will be dual purpose. Mine have two characters the first is the shoot day pocket rocket and the other is the time to stay to heel and become the calm stalkers friend, they know which job they are on and behave accordingly......its all in the training

 

[JabaliHunter]

Interesting discussion! Thanks Stone and Cockerdog - food for thought...

 

[shortshot]

What you need too weigh up is .....a cocker is a good shooting dog and would find shot deer easy enough.

Generally speaking a GWP or BMH may be better at 365day deer work but they are of very limited use in other shooting situations (either on a leash or in the next parish).

Trouble with a spaniel.. theres a sparrow in every hedgerow.

 

[barongcw]

What you need too weigh up is .....a cocker is a good shooting dog and would find shot deer easy enough.

Generally speaking a GWP or BMH may be better at 365day deer work but they are of very limited use in other shooting situations (either on a leash or in the next parish).

Trouble with a spaniel.. theres a sparrow in every hedgerow.

Hoho. This is going a bit far.

Yes, a spaniel, if trained will find freshly shot deer but I have yet to see one working out a 24 hour old track partly without blood. Horses for courses.

I know nothing about GWP but a BMH or HS, again if properly trained, will be better than the non-tracking breeds. They do not need to be worked 365 days a year. My old HS does about 20 real tracks a year and a little training.

I agree they cannot be used for other shooting situations because virtually all are pretty hard in the mouth.

 

[Gazza]

What you need too weigh up is .....a cocker is a good shooting dog and would find shot deer easy enough.

Generally speaking a GWP or BMH may be better at 365day deer work but they are of very limited use in other shooting situations (either on a leash or in the next parish).

Trouble with a spaniel.. theres a sparrow in every hedgerow.

Although I own a BMH I am not going to claim to be an expert but I do have almost 40 years knowledge of owning dogs. As well as deer management I run a pheasant shoot and along with others do a good bit of the beating. On my thinking that a BMH is just a dog with a highly attuned nose I decided to take my BMH out on the pheasant shoot and run him with my spaniels. I am not going to say he is as good at piling into the rough stuff with the spaniels but he knows what the game is and will flush birds. Although no retriever he does not run riot like a few springers/cockers I have come across nor is he into the next drive before we are ready to move on. A good days exercise for him and I don't believe this harms his ability to locate deer. Others may have a different view.