Deer proof fence

Shootgun

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What's the minimum height for a good quality fence to keep the roe out?

They keep coming on the flower beds on one of my estates but i don't want to shoot them, i would rather keep them out.
Money no object.

TIA
 
1.5m


Specifications for the fence’s woodwork​

Species of deerEndposts and turning posts (metres by centimetres)Struts (metres by centimetres)Intermediate stakes (metres by centimetres)Maximum stake spacing (metres)
Roe2.8m by 10 to 13cm2.5m by 8 to 10cm2.5m by 5 to 8cm10m
Muntjac2.8m by 10 to 13cm2.5m by 8 to 10cm2.5m by 5 to 8cm10m
Red/sika/fallow2.8m by 12 to 18cm2.5m by 10 to 13cm2.6m by 8 to 10cm10m

Specifications for the height of the fence and the size of the mesh​

Species of deerMinimum fence height (metres)Maximum mesh size (millimetres)
Red and sika1.8m200 by 300mm
Fallow1.8m200 by 220mm
Roe1.5m200 by 150mm
Muntjac1.5m75 by 75mm
 
The above heights are guidelines and will work most of the time.
However if a deer is set on getting in/out it probably will eventually.
 
I've been noticing a few "deer fences" being supplied to customers locally that are simply not up for the job - based on cost no doubt, less materials less cost... Id imagine the fencing contractor put a quote in and the customer bulked at the cost (it is expensive!) Two fences in particular I've seen that are really to keep fallow out are far to low and mesh size too small, the fallow can jump it, Muntjac can't and have seen plenty of legs left in the wire... If you study a leg that's been caught in a wire, and see how much stress and trauma is caused it truly horrific and all down to a substandard / not for purpose fence. One of these fences is in a Natural England nature reserve looked after by "experts"......

For correct fencing take a look here - Forestry Commission Specifications: - https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/documents/6956/fcpn9.pdf

Importance of appropriate fencing;
deer leg 1.webpdeer leg 2.webp
 
Never imagine it would work for anything than insects?
They've been using sacrificial planting in Germany for quite some time and theirs some good studies out there on it. Also some trials being conducted here and seed / advice is available from Bright Seeds -https://www.brightseeds.co.uk/ .
 
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I've been noticing a few "deer fences" being supplied to customers locally that are simply not up for the job - based on cost no doubt, less materials less cost... Id imagine the fencing contractor put a quote in and the customer bulked at the cost (it is expensive!) Two fences in particular I've seen that are really to keep fallow out are far to low and mesh size too small, the fallow can jump it, Muntjac can't and have seen plenty of legs left in the wire... If you study a leg that's been caught in a wire, and see how much stress and trauma is caused it truly horrific and all down to a substandard / not for purpose fence. One of these fences is in a Natural England nature reserve looked after by "experts"......

For correct fencing take a look here - Forestry Commission Specifications: - https://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/documents/6956/fcpn9.pdf

Importance of appropriate fencing;
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That looks awful! How was the foot caught? Can’t quite work it out.
 
That looks awful! How was the foot caught? Can’t quite work it out.
With that particular one i think maybe too much slack in the top wire, it had somehow put a loop / twist in the wire on the way over and then just spun around until it separated its leg...

I think we've all probably seen legs in fences and even in good proper deer fences that are fit for purpose. These tend to be where the deer is frantic and desperate like when theirs poachers with long dogs behind them.
 
With that particular one i think maybe too much slack in the top wire, it had somehow put a loop / twist in the wire on the way over and then just spun around until it separated its leg...

I think we've all probably seen legs in fences and even in good proper deer fences that are fit for purpose. These tend to be where the deer is frantic and desperate like when theirs poachers with long dogs behind them.
That's horse fencing. The gaps are too small for a horse's hoof which prevents exactly that type of injury from happing... to horses! Probably makes it worse for deer because they have no chance of twisting the leg sideways.
 
That's horse fencing. The gaps are too small for a horse's hoof which prevents exactly that type of injury from happing... to horses! Probably makes it worse for deer because they have no chance of twisting the leg sideways.
Exactly, not deer fencing! Like I say same fencing been erected in a NE reserve near me guess under some grant scheme, for the purpose of excluding deer.
 
Exactly, not deer fencing! Like I say same fencing been erected in a NE reserve near me guess under some grant scheme, for the purpose of excluding deer.
Interesting if it has been done under a grant of some sort, I thought they were usually quite prescriptive of the spec that had to be adhered to. I expect it's a case where nobody actually checks to see if the work has been done according the terms of the grant...

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Here are said specs

 
A lot of current high quality deer fence has the bottom painted green to improve corrosion resistance alongside the galvanising. Poor quality fencing has very limited galvanising on top of poor quality base wire. The difference in the serviceable life of the different products is incredible .
 
What's the minimum height for a good quality fence to keep the roe out?

They keep coming on the flower beds on one of my estates but i don't want to shoot them, i would rather keep them out.
Money no object.

TIA
If terrain always could you consider a Ha-ha or a combination of.
 
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