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I'm really struggling to find deerstalking land I've got my 243 come through and I have got land to use it on but we have very minimal if any as there are no woods around my area. The ones that are on there I'd prefer to see when I'm out than shoot and reduce the odd ones to none. All the land I've asked have either already got someone who already does it or its paid stalking but that's very difficult to find the funds for that being only 20 and on apprentice wages. I'd be happy to to just go along and watch to see what is involved in deerstalking. If anyone fancies a day wildfowling I can offer that or pigeon and vermin shooting.
Thanks Ben
 
Thanks for the offer ile send you a PM I in suffolk but I'm more than willing to travel.
Thanks Ben
 
Just keep looking, applied for FAC .22 rim .22-250 and .270..... Had initial visit from feo and he poo'd my permission as it was a tenanted farm. So went out and asked two other farmers ( I am a dairyman and know a few ) so from feo declining perm I got 1500 acres sole shooting rights for deer fox and vermin ( plus game) within 24 hours . loads of roe on there as well. Just waiting for licence now. Just keep asking locally but like you said deer stalking perm is like rocking horse poo
 
cowsmart said:
Just keep looking, applied for FAC .22 rim .22-250 and .270..... Had initial visit from feo and he poo'd my permission as it was a tenanted farm. So went out and asked two other farmers ( I am a dairyman and know a few ) so from feo declining perm I got 1500 acres sole shooting rights for deer fox and vermin ( plus game) within 24 hours . loads of roe on there as well. Just waiting for licence now. Just keep asking locally but like you said deer stalking perm is like rocking horse poo
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Why may i ask was a tenanted farm not acceptable?
 
Aren't a lot of tenanted units National Trust owned? That would mean that they would have to give the permission as opposed to the tenant farmer - National Trust is a tough nut to crack I hear
 
Hereford said:
Aren't a lot of tenanted units National Trust owned? That would mean that they would have to give the permission as opposed to the tenant farmer - National Trust is a tough nut to crack I hear
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Did not know that, have a tenanted farm in the West country as one of my perms, FEO confirmed it was on the system cleared for full bore and as such I shoot it..:shock:
 
Feo said categorically no tenanted farms...unless permission from land owner or factor.. Said they are clamping down on it?
 
Maybe the reason was that the FEO knew that a farming tenant can't give permission to control deer on the land, that has to come from the landowner. However a farming tenant can authorise someone to shoot vermin, as the vermin shooting rights usually rest with the tenant.

I have fallen into this trap myself, where I was given permission by a farmer to shoot deer on 'his' land, only to find out years later that in fact the land was owned by somebody else. Something for all of us to be aware of.
 
Hereford said:
Aren't a lot of tenanted units National Trust owned? That would mean that they would have to give the permission as opposed to the tenant farmer - National Trust is a tough nut to crack I hear
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The National Trust usually requires the DSC2 before issuing a stalking license. However, there are plenty of National Trust sites where, for example, one DSC2 holder is the Licensed Stalker, and three others are 'authorised' on his license. Of those three others at least TWO also have to be at DSC2 level, but ONE is allowed at DSC1 level. My understanding is that the NT regional countryside manager, their Land Agent and the site manager have the power to exercise a lot of discretion in what they will and will not allow. If you stalk on a non-commercial basis and offer to share the venison with the regional NT staff or supply their catering outlets on visitor sites it becomes a win-win-win.
 
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No the feo said the tenant cannot give vermin control unless he/ she has the right to do so under his/ hers tenancy agreement....which he said most don't ...
 
cowsmart said:
No the feo said the tenant cannot give vermin control unless he/ she has the right to do so under his/ hers tenancy agreement....which he said most don't ...
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Not quite true, under The Ground Game Act they can employ 1 single person to control ground game (hares & rabbits) in return for payment, keeping the ground game suffices as payment. The landowner or owner of the shooting rights cannot prevent this.

It doesn't however apply to all 'vermin' such as pigeons, corvids or even rats!

Personally I am a similar position to the OP in that though I have around 2000 acres over 6 landowners or tenanted that I control either just ground game or that and pest birds & fox I only have 1 small 12 acre perm that I have deer permission on.

It's a start and I got deer added to my ticket but it's very difficult to get anymore as all the land has someone on it, deer numbers are climbing rapidly so I wonder how much culling actually gets done!
 
I know your pain ben! Deer on the ticket but none to shoot, Ive been going on paid stalking days but having a young family makes them few and far between.
 
High seat 6.5,top man,a smashing couple, took me out a while back,you could"nt meet a nicer guy,
Well done my mate,
Tony.
 
Keep looking you may not get deer to start with but foxes and vermin once you accepted by one farmer/land owner the permission wil come by word of mouth as long as you are a good guy
 
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