Define "Stalking Rifle"

[Klenchblaize]

Here is a proper stalking rifle. Makes a nice .54 hole and most deer just fall over.

SS

Perfect for securing undamaged squirrel meat.

K

 

[palmer_mike]

Pure lead which is usually used in M/L rifles will expand but that is not by design like a jacketed soft point. Soft lead expands when it hits something as it's soft.

Seem to remember there being a slight difference on ammunition definitions between Scotland and England which came to light during one of the many amax debates. Wonder if lead projectiles (even though not designed to be expanding) might be legal for use on deer?

found it, Scotland one must use projectiles which are designed to be predictably expanding (pretty sure solid lead not ok?)
england and Wales toust use hollow point or soft point (not sure if solid lead would be ok for this?).

as an aside, I seem to remember reading somewhere about sabots for use in ml rifles for firing jacketed bullets, this would prob be a way around it?

 

[palmer_mike]

Something like this?
Hornady XTP Bullets 50 Cal Sabot 45 Cal 240 Grain Jacketed Hollow

 

[Southern]

Gun maker and hunter Paul Roberts on his stalking rifles during his lifetime.

Mike Yardley Interviews Legendary Hunter Paul Roberts

 

[ejg]

Here is a proper stalking rifle. Makes a nice .54 hole and most deer just fall over.

SS

That is a real beauty.
As nice as she is, she would not be practical for our hunting as we are more wet than dry on some days washing the rifle in the river after the outing in the bogs.
...and then how does she perform at say 300m?
edi

 

[MARCBO]

...and then how does she perform at say 300m?
edi

Not an issue, you "STALK" to within range!

SS

 

[Southern]

Just like they used to do with muzzle loaders and long bows on the same ground.
But here is a real trajectory posted by a black powder hunter about his Hawken.
[h=4]BULLET 50 caliber, 410 grain RN maxistyle, Black Powder* = 90 grains FFg[/h]

	Muzzle	50 yds.	100 yds.	150 yds.	200 yds.
Ft. per Sec.	1400	1273	1168	1086	1023
FootPounds Energy	1784	1475	1241	1073	953
Traj: 100 yds zero	-0.8	2.3	0.0	-8.7	-24.6

 

[Southern]

Here are two I consider to be the essence of stalking rifles, a 1903 Springfield stocked by Wundhammer in an Oberndorf Mauser style stock with its slim fore end and open grip, and a Savage 1899 with a peep sight and shotgun grip.
View attachment 44078View attachment 44079

 

[ejg]

Not an issue, you "STALK" to within range!

SS

Recon you just play around instead of managing deer numbers.
With that (beautiful) old Betsy you can just not be efficient at least you wouldn't be in our terrain. Try selling those things to a forestry company to kit out their prof. hunters, they'll laugh at you. How many deer do you actually shoot in a year with that rifle?
edi

 

[tackb]

Not an issue, you "STALK" to within range!

SS

300m is within range?

 

[Offroad Gary]

Awooga Awooga, sniper alert, sniper alert. Call the distance police, close the thread. Stop the enjoyment.

Captain Deerstalker will be having a word with you in his office sir!!

(Do you like the way i used that smiley thing, means i cant get in trouble or upset anybody)

 

[tackb]

Awooga Awooga, sniper alert, sniper alert. Call the distance police, close the thread. Stop the enjoyment.

Captain Deerstalker will be having a word with you in his office sir!!

(Do you like the way i used that smiley thing, means i cant get in trouble or upset anybody)

give over , it's not UKV!!!!

 

[The tramp]

give over , it's not UKV!!!!

Careful mate, you'll get banned too !

 

[The tramp]

See that, Mate. Mate. Mate. I like it here, you can call a mate a mate. Not sir !!

 

[tackb]

you do have to be careful , I've had a telling off for talking about ukv on other forums (apparently I have a stalker!)

 

[Crosshair243]

I got banned from UKV

 

[tackb]

I got banned from UKV

don't worry about it , it seems to be going through a 'phase' at the moment ! I just hope it grows up before a very good site is ruined by a few mods with a god complex ?

 

[bobjs]

don't worry about it , it seems to be going through a 'phase' at the moment ! I just hope it grows up before a very good site is ruined by a few mods with a god complex ?

are you sure its just a complex.sad to say that there are a few sites that have been ruined never to return to what they where like in the past, and in some cases its not just the moderators its the fact that money got involved.

been there done that and have the scars to prove it,

anyway.

the rifle does not do the stalking.............its you that stalks the beast the rifle and ammo is what kills it.

simples.

bob.

 

[The tramp]

I got banned from UKV

Me too now. And right at the point of a big announcement about cheap l/range shooting too. No loss to me, never mind eh

 

[MARCBO]

The current "Stalking Rifles" (rifles used when stalking) in my house. Between the two they are capable of taking any game animal.