Different headstamps in factory box
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Heym SR20
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A shooter traded in his old rifle and handed in all his ammo as he is swapping to a different calibre. He put all his ammo into various boxes, and they have now passed onto the OP.
If you buying and paying full factory ammo prices, make sure the seals are still on the boxes and unbrocken. .
If you buying and paying full factory ammo prices, make sure the seals are still on the boxes and unbrocken. .
EMcC
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I've never bought ammo in packs of twenty with a seal on it, just flap closed over and tucked in.
Are the bullets the same?
All cartridges looked same, no obvious differences in oal (not measured) and all v max.
Just checked through spent cases, to check for any signs of reloads, and have also found at least one federal headstamp!!!!
It appears that the retailer has, at best, made an admin error…
Just checked through spent cases, to check for any signs of reloads, and have also found at least one federal headstamp!!!!
It appears that the retailer has, at best, made an admin error…
They didn't, no way Hornady packed other ammo in there boxes. Think of the liability for one, for 2 why market other branded stuff in your trademarked boxes.
Heym SR20
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All ammo should have a sticker across the flap even on boxes of 20. Any ammo I have ever purchased has such a seal.
EMcC
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I can't recall ever having any sort of sticker on any of my ammunition bought other than bullets.
I bought 60 yesterday and no stickers.
shakey jake
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id be fairly hacked off they are selling unkown reloads, take back and get at minimum complete refund
Heym SR20
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What brand and from where. Certainly any factory that I have ever bought has some form of sticky label across the flap to the box sealed / closed. I mostly reload and all components from bullets, primers and powder also have seals on them.
EMcC
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I have just bought some Federal, PPU and Remington ammo and neither had stickers, just the usual flip lid.
This might have a very significant bearing on things? - the OP bought a second hand rifle along with part boxes of ammunition is the way I read it.
If that is the case then it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that the original owner simply packaged up his or her old ammo into boxes & it was then sold on to the OP with the rifle.
What does potentially raise an issue is if the RFD has sold what are actually hand loads produced by the original owner as these won't have been CIP tested etc. - assuming of course the rifle was bought from an RFD & not face to face from the previous owner?
The photo does appear to show reloaded ammo, not familiar with Hornady but all the Norma factory ammo I have ever bought has a silver primer colour not a brass colour.
As for sealing boxes, some do, some don't. Norma don't, RWS use a hologram label, Remington glue the flap inside the box, Federal don't, Lapua do, etc.
MAH
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The primers in the Hornady cartridge look different colours. Could be a mix of factory and reloaded ammunition.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that it all looks like factory ammunition to me. Typically, factory ammunition primers are brass colored. Only reloading primers in the US that are brass colored are Winchester primers, everything else has a zinc coating.
What appears we have here is a bunch of factory ammunition from a former owner, all tossed into boxes. This makes sense, since they are (apparently) all VMAX bullets, and of the same weight (or else the bullets would look clearly different).
So, all that being said, same bullet weight they may all be, but each factory (and their respective lots) have different powders. And they are not canister powders at that; they're blends of industrial grade powders. As such, I'd be highly surprised if the mixed ammo grouped well at all, since they likely differ (even if slightly) in velocity, and case capacity.
JMTCW...
What appears we have here is a bunch of factory ammunition from a former owner, all tossed into boxes. This makes sense, since they are (apparently) all VMAX bullets, and of the same weight (or else the bullets would look clearly different).
So, all that being said, same bullet weight they may all be, but each factory (and their respective lots) have different powders. And they are not canister powders at that; they're blends of industrial grade powders. As such, I'd be highly surprised if the mixed ammo grouped well at all, since they likely differ (even if slightly) in velocity, and case capacity.
JMTCW...
enfieldspares
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Once upon a time Norma primers in their factory ammunition sold under their own headstamp were also stamped. With NP on the primer. See them in this linked thread here:
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Picked up some vintage norma ammo
I just picked up these 3 full boxes of some old/vintage norma ammo at a local gun show this past weekend. The bottom two boxes seem much older than the top box. Seems the general consensus is the 60's on the top box, and possibly the 50's on the bottom boxes. The head stamps are...
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