Why not take Sh@t while you're at it?, You could wear sandals & do away with your undercrackers too!
Does the urinator deserve
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Stalker62
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Yes. In my opinion. I did not feel the need to clarify your views as your "opinion". I took a leap of faith and went with it.
This is not about taking a leak in the Highlands. Or (as has been pointed out) athletes taking a "dump" in the middle of a race.
Nor is it about parents letting their kids pee into a drain or motorists taking a "natural" at the roadside.
It is about a drunken idiot who came to London looking to "protect statues" although he was unable to articulate which statues. Who then urinated in a public place upside the memorial to a murdered Police Officer.
If you cannot differentiate between those incidents then you are wilfully blind to the obvious.
In my opinion.
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I know, I apologise, one must never mock the afflicted.
Woodsmoke
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You really are quite an unpleasant little man
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Jamsie
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If the guy couldn't actually find a public toilet that was open when nature called, then I could have a certain sympathy because when you've got to go ... you've got to go! Saying that, he COULD have picked a less controversial spot. I drive many miles to provide a service to people in and around Cumbria / the South Lakes area and since lockdown, finding an open public toilet is near impossible. People who want their Amazon / ebay stuff delivered aught to be telling their local councils to get these amenities opened up and available to all delivery drivers. If they choose not to, then they can hardly complain when their lay byes start stinking of p*ss.
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spannulman
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I've seen far worse forgiven, far sooner . . .
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Agreed. Like people hurling vile abuse at hearses travelling through wootton Bassett. I don’t think anyone was stopped doing that, despite it outraging public decency in most minds.
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Agreed. Like people hurling vile abuse at hearses travelling through wootton Bassett. I don’t think anyone was stopped doing that, despite it outraging public decency in most minds.
I hope you have zips on your pockets because if we meet and I get caught short...
Lickashot
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I heard there is a toilet right near to the memorial, that's where he went. It is closed at the moment, apparently due to COVID but no idea on that score. There is nowhere private to pop off to in London to pee. Of course he didn't see the memorial, he just had to go. Toilet shut. Got to go. Nowhere to go.
He went.
When he saw himself on social media and realised how it looked, the guy went into Essex police station, explained his error and apologised profusely.
They gave him a criminal record and 14 days inside.
World's gone mad if you ask me.
He went.
When he saw himself on social media and realised how it looked, the guy went into Essex police station, explained his error and apologised profusely.
They gave him a criminal record and 14 days inside.
World's gone mad if you ask me.
Woodsmoke
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Again. You really are an unpleasant little oik. I find very few members deserving of the ignore button as I value most people's opinions and views, even if they differ from my own. Yours, however, I find I can cast aside as being of no consequence.
countrryboy
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When u read those 2 posts it does seem very very harsh for 1 moment of madness when no one actually got hurt and no real harm was done.
In the photos the plaque doesn't look that noticeable, esp if u've had a few, if he was another 10ft either way it would not off been a problem.
Dunno wot he does for a job, but could easy lose his job over this, either for company scared of bad PR ( esp with social media, wouldn't surprise me if already a campaign to get him sacked) or because he has a criminal record.
Potentially hard to get a new job due to Crim record.
Does seem very very harsh when something so minor could quite literally lose his job possibly his house too etc.
Interesting views.
I presume this was memorial to Yvonne Fletcher? Iranian Embassy ? It doesnt matter - to me anyone who thinks more about peeing than looking where they are doing it couldn't give a monkeys about very much and should be sanctioned. However, I am all for equality in these things and after the child abuse scandals everywhere that weren't properly investigated and mainly ignored, this chaps sentence seems a bit heavy.
Defacing anything is contrary to my nature and whether or not you know its there, its still defacing a public memorial. As for the punishment, fitting some synthesis of what society wants - bull. the law is the law, penalties are set out in guidelines and should be abided by, especially for child abuse.
No-one has the right to 'interpret' the law as the judge found out who part blamed a woman for her being raped. Same with Chief Constables and HOG.
Sentence suspended for 2 years 14 days on any recurrence seems fine. Now what do we do about Winston's statue, child abuse, etc etc.
Sad and dangerous if the Police are becoming 'facebook cops' and judges 'twitter sentencers'.
I presume this was memorial to Yvonne Fletcher? Iranian Embassy ? It doesnt matter - to me anyone who thinks more about peeing than looking where they are doing it couldn't give a monkeys about very much and should be sanctioned. However, I am all for equality in these things and after the child abuse scandals everywhere that weren't properly investigated and mainly ignored, this chaps sentence seems a bit heavy.
Defacing anything is contrary to my nature and whether or not you know its there, its still defacing a public memorial. As for the punishment, fitting some synthesis of what society wants - bull. the law is the law, penalties are set out in guidelines and should be abided by, especially for child abuse.
No-one has the right to 'interpret' the law as the judge found out who part blamed a woman for her being raped. Same with Chief Constables and HOG.
Sentence suspended for 2 years 14 days on any recurrence seems fine. Now what do we do about Winston's statue, child abuse, etc etc.
Sad and dangerous if the Police are becoming 'facebook cops' and judges 'twitter sentencers'.
Let’s just wait and see what happens to them, remember Bryan Ferry’s son, Otis?
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Two weeks in prison may be a bit harsh for having a pee. The problem is where he did it of course. I see that some think he should have got a ticket and other thing it's not harsh enough. So maybe, if you believe he didn't see the memorial stone, anything more would have been OTT.
But here's the thing. If his was a black life that matters, rather than a white one, would the end result be the same? The cops that arrested him would maybe just have taken a knee outside his house.
But here's the thing. If his was a black life that matters, rather than a white one, would the end result be the same? The cops that arrested him would maybe just have taken a knee outside his house.
Stalker62
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It does matter.
A memorial is an object which serves as a focus for the memory or the commemoration of something, usually an influential, deceased person or a historical, tragic event.
PC Keith Palmer, GM was a British police officer who was posthumously awarded the George Medal, the second highest award for gallantry "not in the face of the enemy". Though unarmed, he stopped a knife-wielding terrorist from entering the Palace of Westminster during the 2017 Westminster attack; he died from wounds he received in this attack.
It does matter...
You seem to have confused this case with the people who violated the Cenotaph. This idiot pi**ed next to, but not on, a small memorial to the policeman killed taking on a knife-wielding cretin /terrorist trying to get into Parliament.
Rake Aboot
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And yet you can't though can you because then you and your little special friend wouldn't be able to trawl what I post and have your tittering little digs could you .?
Another who would no doubt never repeat what they type in person.
FrenchieBoy
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I personally think that the 14 days sentence is a bit too harsh, particularly in light of all of these statues that have been defaced recently with the culprits clearly shown and caught in the act on video and readily identifiable yet the police choose to do nothing about it.
OK the guy had a pee next to a memorial plaque, not directly on the plaque to deface it or vandalise it, just next to it! - Maybe he didn't see the plaque which because of it's positioning could have been missed by many people, maybe he quite simply didn't even realise that it was there, but at least he had the decency to hand himself in when he saw it on the media and immediately apologised.
Let's be honest, how many of us have been on a "night out" and been caught short on the way home? Most of us at some time or other I suspect, and would we have expected a 14 day prison sentence for it, I suspect not!
OK the guy had a pee next to a memorial plaque, not directly on the plaque to deface it or vandalise it, just next to it! - Maybe he didn't see the plaque which because of it's positioning could have been missed by many people, maybe he quite simply didn't even realise that it was there, but at least he had the decency to hand himself in when he saw it on the media and immediately apologised.
Let's be honest, how many of us have been on a "night out" and been caught short on the way home? Most of us at some time or other I suspect, and would we have expected a 14 day prison sentence for it, I suspect not!
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