I might be a decent driver now, but when I passed the test I scraped it with several minors in several categories ... it wouldnt have been the end of the world to do a bit more pre-test ....
DSC 2 without DSC 1?
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That rolls into what lee and I touched on with people getting trigger time at rifle clubs instead of being handed an estate rifle and shoot
I agree on this. Ive been target shooting, somewhat successfully at times, for 34 years. Id be very happy to have a requirement to learn to shoot at a HO approved club. The current test of 4" at 100m might be adequate but it certainly isnt a high bar.
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All this talk is a bit of willy waving in my opinion.
You know everyone misses, and its no shame to do so. In fact I would rather any client I am with miss a deer, than wound it. Shooting regularly at a target may give you more experience with a rifle and its feel. Someone may be able to clover leaf a target at 200yds
Now that same person has just walked 5 miles up a Scottish hillside, and crawled 100yds through peat and water to try and shoot a stag, and missed. Or the same person is in a thick wood with falling light and is within 80yds of a grunting Fallow buck, and pulls the shot.
Its called adrenaline. And also bits of paper on a range don't move, and you nice and comfortable taking the shot. There's a world of difference between punching holes in paper and stalking onto deer at times.
The man that says he never missed is either a liar, or hasn't shot many deer in my book.
You know everyone misses, and its no shame to do so. In fact I would rather any client I am with miss a deer, than wound it. Shooting regularly at a target may give you more experience with a rifle and its feel. Someone may be able to clover leaf a target at 200yds
Now that same person has just walked 5 miles up a Scottish hillside, and crawled 100yds through peat and water to try and shoot a stag, and missed. Or the same person is in a thick wood with falling light and is within 80yds of a grunting Fallow buck, and pulls the shot.
Its called adrenaline. And also bits of paper on a range don't move, and you nice and comfortable taking the shot. There's a world of difference between punching holes in paper and stalking onto deer at times.
The man that says he never missed is either a liar, or hasn't shot many deer in my book.
No , you need dsc1 to advance to dsc2
maybe 20 years plus, must try and find.Everyone who shoots deer long enough, will have a bad day. Thats not in dispute Malc.All this talk is a bit of willy waving in my opinion.
You know everyone misses, and its no shame to do so. In fact I would rather any client I am with miss a deer, than wound it. Shooting regularly at a target may give you more experience with a rifle and its feel. Someone may be able to clover leaf a target at 200yds
Now that same person has just walked 5 miles up a Scottish hillside, and crawled 100yds through peat and water to try and shoot a stag, and missed. Or the same person is in a thick wood with falling light and is within 80yds of a grunting Fallow buck, and pulls the shot.
Its called adrenaline. And also bits of paper on a range don't move, and you nice and comfortable taking the shot. There's a world of difference between punching holes in paper and stalking onto deer at times.
The man that says he never missed is either a liar, or hasn't shot many deer in my book.
Whats been suggested is that by actually training properly, we reduce the frequency of those bad days.
Same as most things more you do better you get in theory at least dependant on soo many variables and apptitude.
Hill stalking requires a good level of fitness, self discipline and control, some people can deal with cold and wet better than others but few are totally prepared for extreme stalks and no shame in missing if body lets you down, others thrive on it.
If shooting from high seat with breathing under control and reasonable vision it’s a different discipline clearly, with major risk of slip and trip, not to mention many not fit with a sharp knife and we all make mistakes when tired.
Larder can be a risky place when cold and tired accidents and bad days all part of it.
Was told driving lessons got you through a test then you learnt to drive, stalking as a hobby can to a degree be tailored to the individual and most find the level they are happy with and adapt their own style and methods not to mention caliber etc etc. Imo.
Hill stalking requires a good level of fitness, self discipline and control, some people can deal with cold and wet better than others but few are totally prepared for extreme stalks and no shame in missing if body lets you down, others thrive on it.
If shooting from high seat with breathing under control and reasonable vision it’s a different discipline clearly, with major risk of slip and trip, not to mention many not fit with a sharp knife and we all make mistakes when tired.
Larder can be a risky place when cold and tired accidents and bad days all part of it.
Was told driving lessons got you through a test then you learnt to drive, stalking as a hobby can to a degree be tailored to the individual and most find the level they are happy with and adapt their own style and methods not to mention caliber etc etc. Imo.
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