DSC1 and factory ammo
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Claret_Dabbler
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Orion
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Is that all DSC1 shooting tests or only those run by certain organisations - BASC for example? There was no restriction on the assessment I took via BDS year before last.
Have to say the BDS didnt have a restriction with my course, infact the instructors knew I was using reloads. I cant understand the reasoning if they were to check you were using factory, would they also check the rifle was in proof for example or check the mod was proof marked?
Paul at Fechan
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mereside
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neil i would think it would come down to primers in all my factory baught rounds they seem to have a brass wash so case and primer looks the same colour but primers baught in packs are silver in colour not sure this is the case in all but certainly in my experience,atb wayne
neil_r
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Axe
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In my experience I think it will be at the discretion of the trainer on the day.
My trainer on my DSC1 was an avid home loader himself and he was more than happy to allow people to shoot their home loads.
In fact i remember having a lengthy discussion with him about reloading and development of the home load i used on my assessment where I shot the small deer image in the top right of the BDS target hole in hole.
I passed the assessment without too much effort as will most people using even the least suitable factory load for their rifle.
The pass / fail criteria won't trouble too many people.
My trainer on my DSC1 was an avid home loader himself and he was more than happy to allow people to shoot their home loads.
In fact i remember having a lengthy discussion with him about reloading and development of the home load i used on my assessment where I shot the small deer image in the top right of the BDS target hole in hole.
I passed the assessment without too much effort as will most people using even the least suitable factory load for their rifle.
The pass / fail criteria won't trouble too many people.
Claret_Dabbler
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When I did my own DSC1 about 12 years ago there was no mention of handloads or otherwise.
However, several friends of mine have did the DSC1 over the past five years or so and there was clear instructions in all cases that factory ammo only was to be used. How rigidly this is enforced is another matter, it is down to the range officer on the day. I went to one test day a few years ago and brought my rifle along to allow a friend to do the shooting test with a rifle he was familiar with. I had brought factory ammo along at that time, but there was no mention of it and the range officer was happy that we used my handloads.
However, several friends of mine have did the DSC1 over the past five years or so and there was clear instructions in all cases that factory ammo only was to be used. How rigidly this is enforced is another matter, it is down to the range officer on the day. I went to one test day a few years ago and brought my rifle along to allow a friend to do the shooting test with a rifle he was familiar with. I had brought factory ammo along at that time, but there was no mention of it and the range officer was happy that we used my handloads.
geco 243 105 grain has a silver primer. I'm sure there are others too.
8x57
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Bad choice to make as an example because RWS have a colour coding system or did have with their primers.
When I did my assessment for DSC1 about ten years ago BASC stated that you had to use factory ammo. I simply ignored it because I never use factory ammo and I didn't think that they had a right to insist so. I wonder if they will now take my DSC1 back?
When I did it, three of us were using home loads. I mentioned it to the BASC assessor and he said something to the effect of "I'll pretend you didn't say that". Never said why it wasn't allowed, but in this day and age it is a crap rule to have. I passed anyway so I guess it doesn't matter. If I hadn't mentioned it they wouldn't have checked.
Lightyear
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Deer Stalking Certificate- Level1
These BASC courses are designed for the sportsman or woman who has recently taken up stalking and is seeking further advice and guidance. The courses will provide an insight into and a wider understanding of deer stalking techniques and deer management. The successful delegate will be awarded the Deer Management Qualifications Deer Stalking Certificate Level One and Large Game element of Wild Game Meat Hygiene requirements to meet the Food Hygiene regulations 2004.
If bringing your own rifle, it must be a deer legal calibre. Ammunition should be factory produced (no home loaded ammunition), .22 centrefire ammunition must be bullet weight 50 grain or more and 1,000 ft lb muzzle energy. Rifles will be provided for those who do not own one.
Just in case anyone thought I was making it up !!!
It was a serious question just because most home loaders spend time. effort and money creating consistent best round / load for their particular rifle and to have to then buy some factory for the test seemed rather onerous !!
Guess from the answers it is just BASC (depending !)
Cheers + ATVB
Philip
These BASC courses are designed for the sportsman or woman who has recently taken up stalking and is seeking further advice and guidance. The courses will provide an insight into and a wider understanding of deer stalking techniques and deer management. The successful delegate will be awarded the Deer Management Qualifications Deer Stalking Certificate Level One and Large Game element of Wild Game Meat Hygiene requirements to meet the Food Hygiene regulations 2004.
If bringing your own rifle, it must be a deer legal calibre. Ammunition should be factory produced (no home loaded ammunition), .22 centrefire ammunition must be bullet weight 50 grain or more and 1,000 ft lb muzzle energy. Rifles will be provided for those who do not own one.
Just in case anyone thought I was making it up !!!
It was a serious question just because most home loaders spend time. effort and money creating consistent best round / load for their particular rifle and to have to then buy some factory for the test seemed rather onerous !!
Guess from the answers it is just BASC (depending !)
Cheers + ATVB
Philip
I remember when I did my DSC 1 we were told that we couldnt use .22 centre fire as even though they were deer legal the instructors thought they encouraged poaching by game keepers ....amazing how folk think they are high and mighty
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