Expanded OK?

I cant imagine that it indeed is. This is also why i find the concept of iron sight rifle hunting alluring, as i wonder if it can not provide a somewhat similar intense sensation to the hunter, as bow hunting does.
It certainly does.
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Absolutely, did a lot of bowhunting in Canada and loved it, you have to limit your range appropriately, but seeing the deer's nose glistening at 20 yards was amazing. More satisfying than rifle hunting.
This ^^^

Nothing like being 20 yds from a deer (and them not knowing it), seeing that glistening nose, and waiting for the moment to bring the bow to full draw (usually when their head goes down to browse some foliage, while your heart is pounding because you're so close), then put the bead on him and let the arrow fly, watching it travel to the target, pass through, and the deer buck and run for a few short yards before it realizes it's dead.

A broadhead makes a pretty large hole through both lungs, and breaks ribs as it passes through...

While they do tend to run a little bit further, it isn't much more than a rifle shot, and usually they're already dead, they just don't know it yet.

With mechanical trigger releases and the quality of arrows and broadheads these days, modern bows are every bit as accurate as a rifle. And easier to learn to use as well, than a traditional recurve bow.
 
where a "long" shot is 40yds. And with today's bows, arrows and sights, that is an easy distance to easily keep arrows within the diameter of a milk jug cap (obviously with practice).
On flat practice range, maybe. In the field, not.
 
With mechanical trigger releases and the quality of arrows and broadheads these days, modern bows are every bit as accurate as a rifle.
They are not. But they're accurate enough, to not make a difference.

It's just that shooters are not, accurate / precise I mean, since there are so many variables in bow shooting. Bows are also not nearly as "resilient" to dusk, i.e. you have a much shorter window of opportunity (that is often tackled by different choice of ambush, relevant to deers' cycle of sleeping, eating etc)
 
Absolutely, did a lot of bowhunting in Canada and loved it, you have to limit your range appropriately, but seeing the deer's nose glistening at 20 yards was amazing. More satisfying than rifle hunting.
This is fine however, for a second shot (back up shot) from a poor or misplaced shot then there has to be a delay with it being a one shot affair. We all pull and miss place shots but the cycle time and especially light conditions will play a big factor,

People like to do it which is fine, however with the dangerous game be it a black bear, buff, lion,leopard then the back up is a gun as your bow will not work very well.

The people who go to Africa bow hunting are flanked by PH's with large rifles for a good reason,
As I said previously thank God we don't have it here as the whole country would be a deer park with the bow not being fit for purpose, we have far too many deer as it is without the new generation's of Robin Hood/John Rambo
I would put it on a par with,

Jumping out of a plane with only one parachute.
Driving without a spare wheel and jack.
Going to the airport with a week left on your passport. :doh:
 
Ok
Assuming for a moment bow hunting can be humane what do we make of this


The stalking skill is obviously impressive to get that close but I'd definitely not trust my throwing arm

Placement in this vid is incredibly impressive though
I follow Tim Wells on the tube.
Any bow hunting nay sayers should watch all his videos then either admit they are lousy bow shots or just simply shut up....
 
The people who go to Africa bow hunting are flanked by PH's with large rifles for a good reason,
Get your point, but people going to Africa rifle hunting are also flanked by PHs.

How many times have you heard "good shot sir!" on a video, where shot clearly landed on the ass, center mass or even ground before the beast?
 
Get your point, but people going to Africa rifle hunting are also flanked by PHs.

How many times have you heard "good shot sir!" on a video, where shot clearly landed on the ass, center mass or even ground before the beast?
Yes and they also say shoot again so the client does just that while the bow hunter is "all a quiver" or is that him looking for his next flight :tiphat:
All overseas guests book with outfitters so you comment about being flanked by PH's is a moot point as they have to have a guide ;)
 
I know of a chap who in his young and impressionable years bowhunted ducks and geese off the lochs around Arthur’s Seat in our fine capital Edinburgh (pronounced embra to our American cousins - not head-in-burrow).
Yes, I believe the chap understood it was not entirely legal - youth is wasted on the young etc.
But very effective if you know your limits.

Were it legal here, I’m sure the same chap would be happy taking deer with a compound to 50m. Not as accurate as a rifle, and certainly requires both strength and skill beyond that needed to humanely take a deer with a rifle. That being part of the attraction.
 
They are not. But they're accurate enough, to not make a difference.

It's just that shooters are not, accurate / precise I mean, since there are so many variables in bow shooting. Bows are also not nearly as "resilient" to dusk, i.e. you have a much shorter window of opportunity (that is often tackled by different choice of ambush, relevant to deers' cycle of sleeping, eating etc)
Then you haven't shot a modern bow lately, or hunted with dedicated bow hunters.
 
Then you haven't shot a modern bow lately, or hunted with dedicated bow hunters.
I do shoot modern bows, and shoot and hunt with dedicated bow hunters.

You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make it fact. If we lived in more convenient locations, I'd say I have $1000 here to back up my opinion.
 
I had a crossbow that you could not shoot at the same spot up to 50yds without the risk of smashing an arrow.
My last Martin Archery compound you could not shoot at the same spot up to 40yds if you valued the carbon arrows.
 
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