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[Dogangun]

I've had a fb account for quite a while but never had any use for it until recently, I needed a bit of information and advice and was pointed towards fb.
I logged on but it says that I have to take a short video of my face from different angles so that they can verify I'm who I am. This will be held for 30 days while they verify the information!?
Is this normal? I could understand if it were the bank but this lot?
My initial thoughts are that they can shove it where the sun doesn't shine and I'll carry on with a email or phone call to gain the information I require.

 

[VSS]

My initial thoughts are that they can shove it where the sun doesn't shine and I'll carry on with a email or phone call to gain the information I require.

My thoughts too.

 

[User00056]

And mine. I use it a lot, but if they start with this nonsense I'll be deleting my account

 

[finnbear270]

Sounds a bit scam to me, someone trying to gain log on info for a bank or some other institution using your facial id?

 

[wytonpjs]

Sounds a bit scam to me, someone trying to gain log on info for a bank or some other institution using your facial id?

Sadly, I doubt it. There's others on here who are now far more tech savvy but digital facial ID is a thing and is used on some Government website for authentication; I last tripped over it about 18 months ago when I needed an emergency passport. It's a one-off test to confirm who you are, usually set against another 2D scanned picture such as a driving licence, etc so you should only have to do it once to "establish" you are who you say you are @Dogangun to gain access to the dormant FB account.

 

[CookM]

I binned the FB app,they put me on the naughty step for saying butter was better than margarine .

Hardly the stuff to bring down society.

 

[zambezi]

I binned the FB

Me too.

You are not free to express views that transgress "community guidelines" [even though there is no illegality in that content], you do not get to see all activity generated by friends and family [what is served up is algorhytmically skewed/attenuated/curated] and "factcheckers" have been proven to be unqualified to pronounce on that which they decry.

 

[MarinePMI]

I've had my FB account for years, so the new facial requirement is new to me, but does make some sense. When you plug in your name and take your photo it does two things;

1. It allows TFA (Two Factor Authentication). Your saved password and your face will unlock the app, and if someone gets your password, they still can't access your account.

2. Prevents scam accounts from being set up by trying to tie your name to a picture, and seeing if they can verify that by searching the web for a match of photo to name.

Personally, I wouldn't do it (it should be optional). But since you're in the UK, they already have a facial recognition file on you. The UK is one of the most heavily surveilled citizenry in the world....

 

[Twodogs]

I always understood, perhaps incorrectly, that it was China and the USA fighting for this honour.

 

[Dave_45]

The world was a better place without social media.

 

[zambezi]

The UK is one of the most heavily surveilled citizenry in the world....

No doubt about that.

To be fair, CALEA in the US accords similar govt access to a great deal of citizen activity too.

 

[MarinePMI]

No doubt about that.

To be fair, CALEA in the US accords similar govt access to a great deal of citizen activity too.

I'm not familiar with CALEA. Can you elaborate? Our privacy laws are pretty strict in most states...

 

[MarinePMI]

I always understood, perhaps incorrectly, that it was China and the USA fighting for this honour.

China? Definitely. The US? We have some mandatory surveillance compliance (airports, federal buildings, and some cities like NYC). But many states have laws prohibiting public surveillance unless you have a warrant. It falls under the 4th Amendment of Unlawful Search and Seizure. Surveillance is considered a search in many states, and therefore restricted unless the authorities have a warrant.

 

[VSS]

The world was a better place without social media.

What? No Stalking Directory?

In general terms I wholeheartedly agree with you, but I've met a lot of decent folk through this site and consider my life better for that.
And as a marketing tool (selling my venison), social media is a revelation. And it's free.

But the way that social media has taken over and shaped the world I think is very sad. As is the way young people's lives are influenced and manipulated.

 

[zambezi]

not familiar with CALEA. Can you elaborate?

Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act​

This came into being in the 90's to legitimise that which several alphabet agencies were already doing. Post the legislation, US carriers have installed significant traffic monitoring equipment. And in the wake of 9/11 the powers were extended even further.

In essence, the US system has in place the same VOIP/carrier/broadband monitoring as found in the UK. They also use geofencing [Capitol Hill prosecutions] augmented with IMSI Stingers or similar. You would have to do your own research to find data sources you trust and review what is known about the reach of CALEA-mandated citizen surveilence.



[Side bar: a CCCP team called Salt Typhoon hacked into the monitoring system of the major carriers in the US in 2024 thus leveraging the deployed monitoring system to their benefit...]

 

[zambezi]

social media has taken over and shaped the world I think is very sad. As is the way young people's lives are influenced and manipulated.

Returning from a stalk this morning I came past a bus stop with perhaps 9 school kids waiting. To a person they were starring into their mobile phones and not interacting with each other.

 

[Twodogs]

China? Definitely. The US? We have some mandatory surveillance compliance (airports, federal buildings, and some cities like NYC). But many states have laws prohibiting public surveillance unless you have a warrant. It falls under the 4th Amendment of Unlawful Search and Seizure. Surveillance is considered a search in many states, and therefore restricted unless the authorities have a warrant.

Statutory surveillance is one thing but citizenry surveillance is quite another.
If one was to add in to the equation doorbell cameras, home CCTV/alarm systems, dash cams and any other non-statutory surveillance, would this make the US anywhere near hone top if the table?

 

[zambezi]

doorbell cameras, home CCTV/alarm systems, dash cams and any other non-statutory surveillance

Few members of the public realise that all of those devices are merely portals into their lives to be exploited by their vendors.

Far worse: iPhone16 is the most sophisticated surveillance device ever made. You cannot turn it off. [BLE mesh runs 24/7] It scans all user data PRE any app encryption. [Client-Side Scanning] . Apple AI is inbuilt and learning all about you...