Firearm Moderator on eBay
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If it's sold from, and bought for an air rifle there's no issue. It's an absolutely idiotic state of affairs though. Why the hell the powers that be decided an open-ended tube is treated as a firearm will forever baffle me (no pun intended)
I'm in complete agreement, the only reason I posted this is that listing it as a 'muzzle break' immediately rings alarm bells.
What air rifle uses a muzzle break?
The seller is clearly trying to skirt round the fact that it is a moderator.
And the Brake is a Brake because it slows down expanding gas from the discharge. A break is some thing you can take with tea & a KitKat. 
Probably because he doesn’t want the hassle of checking to see if any of us north of the border buying it have the AWL to be allowed to buy it!
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Woodsmoke
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There's a thing called an 'air-stripper' that some air rifles have fitted, I think? I'll have to do some more digging as my memory is struggling to remember the exact details. Maybe that's what the seller is thinking of?
Edit: found some more info here:
Are air strippers effective? - Airgun Magazine
Andy McLachlan attempts to separate fact from myth when it comes to these small devices, said to improve your accuracy
www.airgunmagazine.co.uk
They're all over eBay, too. Quite how much use they are though, I'm not entirely sure
Limpet
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......... Why the hell the powers that be decided an open-ended tube is treated as a firearm will forever baffle me (no pun intended)
It's crazy isn't it. They should all be SAKd
Unless he's selling it attached to a S1 firearm, then it doesn't seem to me that as case could be made that it is 'an accessory to a S1 firearm'.
That being so, it isn't restricted under the Firearms Act.
If we follow the common idea that it is to be treated as a S1 item because is might at some time have been on a S1 firearm, or might work as a moderator on a S1 firearm, then surely all moderators must always be S1 firearms?
Which they not, of course, as we all know.
That being so, it isn't restricted under the Firearms Act.
If we follow the common idea that it is to be treated as a S1 item because is might at some time have been on a S1 firearm, or might work as a moderator on a S1 firearm, then surely all moderators must always be S1 firearms?
Which they not, of course, as we all know.
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SAUER20222250
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You can walk into any gun shop and buy any moderator, any bore, any thread and tell them it is for an air rifle and it's yours. Get caught with it on a S1 rifle that has no moderator listed against it and you are in deep s☆☆t.
loads of people bend the rules on ebay and sell stuff they shouldn't. alcohol gets sold as collectable bottles. plenty of firearms related stuff gets sold under dodgy descriptions. i have even seen ghanja plants offered for sale in hanging baskets. tons of stolen tools and motorbikes. ebay has become pretty much impossible to police.
EMcC
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It would have to be a very gullible salesperson working in that gun shop if it was that easy.
8x57
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Sportsman gun centre get you to sign a disclaimer if selling you an unproofed .22 sound moderator stating that it was sold for airgun use.
SAUER20222250
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The law allows it.
The problem doesnt lay with it being a moderator and who can own it. As provided it's for airgun use and not coming off someones FAC, that's fine. As someone pointed out, SAK rimfire mods can be purchased without license for airgun use.
The problem is that its illegal to post it to someone. As the 2006 violent crime reduction act makes that an offense. All moderator sales, FAC or not must be face to face or go from one dealer to another dealer, to be collected.
I'm really not too sure why anyone would want to break their muzzle anyway. A muzzle brake on the other hand could be useful to some.
As for moderators in general, with the majority of others on here (if not all) I'm firmly in the camp that they should not be controlled at all. There may have been a valid reason in the dim and distant past, but today it's a farce. No licensing authority ever refuses a moderator now. It's an unnecessary paper exercise. What's more, I don't understand why in some countries they are banned, which is even worse. Not everyone wants to use one and there are other methods of protecting your hearing, but, frankly, where's the harm in a moderator?
As for moderators in general, with the majority of others on here (if not all) I'm firmly in the camp that they should not be controlled at all. There may have been a valid reason in the dim and distant past, but today it's a farce. No licensing authority ever refuses a moderator now. It's an unnecessary paper exercise. What's more, I don't understand why in some countries they are banned, which is even worse. Not everyone wants to use one and there are other methods of protecting your hearing, but, frankly, where's the harm in a moderator?
I agree, the powers that be have been watching too many James Bond films where someone gets shot with a rifle from hidden location and there is only a whisper when fired therefore a very dangerous bit of kit that could encourage would be assassins. Its just a health and safety issue, something required to protect your hearing and a bit more neighbor friendly.
Yes the vast majority of the public refer to mods as “Silencers “ and think that what they achieve. To my none shooting mates I describe mods as reducing the shot from “ear damagingly loud” to just F***ing loud. It does beg the question would a gunshop sell you a T8/Stalon/DPD without a FC and slot if you said you were going to put it on an air rifle?
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