First FAC - what am I asking for?

[oldhamstocks]

If any help on first application (2 years ago, Scotland), I was granted .308 x 60 rounds, .223 x 120 rounds and .22LR x 250 rounds. Plus mods for all three of course. Have since added 6.5CM and .17HMR and all ammo quantity increase requests that I added at the time of the variations have been granted for those first three rifles.

 

[RJD]

Not at all, those sort of quantities are normal

For RF, not CF, I’d love to see the FAO face ‘yeah I need 750 CF rounds for zeroing’ I would expect a response of ‘buy a new scope’ or ‘take up golf’.. maybe your FAO is less sarcastic!

 

[25 Sharps]

For RF, not CF, I’d love to see the FAO face ‘yeah I need 750 CF rounds for zeroing’ I would expect a response of ‘buy a new scope’ or ‘take up golf’.. maybe your FAO is less sarcastic!

If you’re a target shooter then allowances are a lot more generous, I had 900 rounds for 6 centrefires but dropped them all to 5-600 now (for 9). Ammo cabinet is a 10 gun cabinet to house it all.

Guidance for non target shooters for fox and deer as good reason is 250 rounds from memory.

 

[weblyish]

You will have a closed ticket so be tied into land cleared by the police for an example .243
I had 5 farms cleared for .243 as they belonged to one family so they will be on file as cleared for .243
I shoot a .270 also on a open ticket so the onus for clearing it is down to me, one field is 6 acres.
What I would look at is where you might be come the first renewal @ 5 years.
I have shot my .243 for 14 years from Muntjac to Reds.
What we all want to do is go shooting and new shooters want to gain experience so if a .243 is a easy grant then up grade with your next renewal as an option.
I say get the boots muddy and lots of trips under you belt with a .243

What is this odd UK licencing view that a smaller calibre is somehow safer for a beginner? And you need to work up to a 'big boy cartridge '


How would I be safer with a calibre I've never shot before

 

[Kyle_hill98]

What is this odd UK licencing view that a smaller calibre is somehow safer for a beginner? And you need to work up to a 'big boy cartridge '


How would I be safer with a calibre I've never shot before

I agree! .22LR is probably one of the most dangerous calibers in my opinion and so often overlooked

 

[MAH]

while I put lots of rounds though it in a field on sticks

Re your OP - he's not a paper work sort of person..

If you don't have written permission for pest control, and your 22lr ticket is thus just target shooting at your club, you can't take it on your mate's field.

Discuss what you want with your FLO, and then abide by the conditions if your certificate.

M

 

[Tim.243]

What is this odd UK licencing view that a smaller calibre is somehow safer for a beginner? And you need to work up to a 'big boy cartridge '


How would I be safer with a calibre I've never shot before

.243 is the mim (well .240) calibre for all UK deer with licencing departments understanding that.
Put in for what you want I was trying to explain, I had my ticket opened up after 14 months as I demonstrated/gained experience also provided what they required to have an open ticket but I still stuck with the .243.
There is not a "big boy cartridge" in the guidelines only the wordings.

1. Quarry Shooting (for vermin, fox or deer)• The *calibre RIFLE/COMBINATION/SMOOTH-BORE GUN/SOUND MODERATOR and ammunition shall be used for shooting vermin including fox, and ground game/ deer (delete as appropriate) and any other lawful quarry, and for zeroing on ranges, on land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot. (The words underlined may be omitted once the certificate holder has demonstrated competence. There is no set time for this and each case should be considered on its individual merits).

 

[Bowland blades]

I agree! .22LR is probably one of the most dangerous calibers in my opinion and so often overlooked

many like me will argue that the 22rf is about the safest round as the kinetic energy is the lowest of the powder burners . The whole " ricochet thing " is used against the 22 unfairly because ALL PROJECTILES CAN RICOCHET . The only difference with the 22 is being subsonic in flight ( using the regular subsonic round) they are more easily picked up by the "zing" sound of the slow mangled lump of soft lead cutting through the air .
When we rate the most dangerous its the level of kinetic energy , hence the largest risk is The big Dangerous Game rifles then all the deer class rifles and then the rimfires down to the sub 12 ftlb airguns etc
I would place good money that more persons in the uk are injured by airguns and even the sub 6ftlb airguns have unfortunately killed in the uk .
The 22 rf might well appear high on the statistics of accidental shooting but that's because its the most owned calibre in the world

 

[TringSaint]

My first application was for 308/7,62x51, 38/357 and 22LR.
These were all target designated with closed conditions on the 308 and 22 for hunting with a mentor.

I then did a 1:1 and flipped the 38/357 for a 17HMR (mentoring was done by then). A year or so later I applied for a 243 and a year or so later a 6,5x55 for target and opened up my ticket.
Then I declassified my 308 for hunting and flipped the 6.5 to hunting and kept it like this for a couple of years before flipping the 308 back to hunting.

So think of this as a journey to get where you want to end up but appreciate that you won’t get everything in one go.

 

[VSS]

What is this odd UK licencing view that a smaller calibre is somehow safer for a beginner? And you need to work up to a 'big boy cartridge '


How would I be safer with a calibre I've never shot before

The way FEOs understand calibres is like this:
If it starts with a 2 then it's safe;
If it starts with a 3 then it's dangerous.

 

[25 Sharps]

The way FEOs understand calibres is like this:
If it starts with a 2 then it's safe;
If it starts with a 3 then it's dangerous.

Starts with a 6 must be outright deadly then!!

 

[timbrayford]

For RF, not CF, I’d love to see the FAO face ‘yeah I need 750 CF rounds for zeroing’ I would expect a response of ‘buy a new scope’ or ‘take up golf’.. maybe your FAO is less sarcastic!

Not in my experience, I'm amazed that stalkers are supposed to zero and practice to a high standard of excellence with just 60 rounds. It also indicates a worrying lack of sufficient knowledge of shooting activities by the FEO