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theinfantry

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Afternoon everyone, hope your weekends have all been relaxed with an alcoholic beverage in hand!

In the next 3 weeks I’ll be welcoming my first Teckel into the home. I understand there is a plethora of knowledgeable owners on here and would be very thankful, for any advice you could throw my way.

From what I can gather ‘patience’ will likely be my ally 😂

thanks in advance,

regards,

Sam 👍
 

Keith Edmunds

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Congratulations - strap yourself in...enjoy the ride ;) They are great little dogs, full of character, very intelligent, and can be a little sensitive. How is he/she bred? That will give 'some' indication of what to expect.
 

josh3105

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Ive got a 5 month old pup, my first too but have grown up around working dogs (albeit spaniels). Mines been pretty good in terms of house training, having only pee'd/poo'd inside less than 5 times... but from talking to others it appears this can be hard with teckels. I was rigid with the crate training method, as soon as hes let out, goes outside until hes done his business and then can come in for a little play etc. The crate has also helped massively at night, night one he cried for about 15 minutes and then he was fine, ive never let him out in the middle of the night but the first week was putting him to bed at midnight and letting him out at 6am.

Ive found short training sessions to be of far more use with Jaeger, 5-10 minutes twice a day on recall/sit... then sit for doors in the house or when you put food down. If he wants to do something else he will generally try and do that for as long as possible before he gets in trouble.

Brilliant with people (mine gets far too excited and can be a nause) and other dogs with good socialisation, cracking nose on them aswell.

Josh
 

theinfantry

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Congratulations - strap yourself in...enjoy the ride ;) They are great little dogs, full of character, very intelligent, and can be a little sensitive. How is he/she bred? That will give 'some' indication of what to expect.

So I’ve heard! That’s been part of the draw, the character and almost an air of mystery about them. Very excited.


Mum is Darswed and Polish lines and dad is bred from a keeper who’s lines are from Somerset.
 

josh3105

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Presumably using your dog for tracking... I've found this book from the states quite useful
 

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theinfantry

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Ive got a 5 month old pup, my first too but have grown up around working dogs (albeit spaniels). Mines been pretty good in terms of house training, having only pee'd/poo'd inside less than 5 times... but from talking to others it appears this can be hard with teckels. I was rigid with the crate training method, as soon as hes let out, goes outside until hes done his business and then can come in for a little play etc. The crate has also helped massively at night, night one he cried for about 15 minutes and then he was fine, ive never let him out in the middle of the night but the first week was putting him to bed at midnight and letting him out at 6am.

Ive found short training sessions to be of far more use with Jaeger, 5-10 minutes twice a day on recall/sit... then sit for doors in the house or when you put food down. If he wants to do something else he will generally try and do that for as long as possible before he gets in trouble.

Brilliant with people (mine gets far too excited and can be a nause) and other dogs with good socialisation, cracking nose on them aswell.

Josh

Thanks for that Josh, I‘m going for the crate as well.
Really looking forward to having a little companion and seeing him progress.

I saw your recent post with your little lad and a Muntjac. Really chuffed for the both of you.

Sam.
 

josh3105

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Cheers mate, theyre brilliant little things... most of the time. Post some pictures when you get him/her
 

Keith Edmunds

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Sounds like he's from good working lines, assuming the keeper is using good working lines too. As has been said, their noses are excellent (certainly good enough to get them into trouble), their determination is usually pretty darn keen and they will try to outsmart you if they can, all in a very nice way. Recall and basic obedience is important and it is tough to advise whether to get this nailed before tracking training or doing the two together - a lot depends on you, the dog and how you live/work. Ours were all imports so nothing was done before 4-5 months of age and even then we decided to bond with them first so it was nearer 8 months before we did any tracking. The natural instinct will be in there if bred right so it wouldn't hurt either way and there is no need to hurry.

If I had an 8-week pup I would most likely combine obedience with a little tracking along the way, but see how it went and if the prey-drive was overtaking the handler focus I would shift accordingly. The book previously mentioned is certainly worth buying.
 

theinfantry

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Sounds like he's from good working lines, assuming the keeper is using good working lines too. As has been said, their noses are excellent (certainly good enough to get them into trouble), their determination is usually pretty darn keen and they will try to outsmart you if they can, all in a very nice way. Recall and basic obedience is important and it is tough to advise whether to get this nailed before tracking training or doing the two together - a lot depends on you, the dog and how you live/work. Ours were all imports so nothing was done before 4-5 months of age and even then we decided to bond with them first so it was nearer 8 months before we did any tracking. The natural instinct will be in there if bred right so it wouldn't hurt either way and there is no need to hurry.

If I had an 8-week pup I would most likely combine obedience with a little tracking along the way, but see how it went and if the prey-drive was overtaking the handler focus I would shift accordingly. The book previously mentioned is certainly worth buying.

Wise words.

I’ll definitely let him be a puppy and look to create a good bond along with mutual respect, to begin with.That along with the basics, heel work, recall, sitting etc.

tracking and retrieving will be short and sharp until I’ve got the basics. I’m not going to rush him, I’ve heard of too many horror stories of rushed training. Sometimes a dogs just got to be a dog.

Sam.
 

pj1

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I found with mine he was so very different from my cocker. The spaniel would do anything to please me but the teckel would just look at me with the “I dont want to” look. Having said that he is brilliant company and I had to learn how he did things rather than me forcing him to do it my way. Work out how to get into their heads and you will be just fine
 

Overlay

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I've found with my two that recall is the thing to get onboard a 100%, once they get their nose on the scent its head down and catch up with em, mine aren't road runners they are pretty pretty steady, but in thick ground cover they just plod on and cover some distance and melt into cover you could walk over them, harness does help greatly in that you can follow the line

My eldest one only breaks into cover on a sure scent, the pup on the other hand just busts through it and Carries on very focused

Ive got my youngest one on harness work now and it does help to switch them on / off they need their time off for fun and games, they very easily slip into work mode because they want to please you all the time 24/7

Good luck and happy tracking - enjoy - Teckels are great companions
 

theinfantry

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I found with mine he was so very different from my cocker. The spaniel would do anything to please me but the teckel would just look at me with the “I dont want to” look. Having said that he is brilliant company and I had to learn how he did things rather than me forcing him to do it my way. Work out how to get into their heads and you will be just fine

The psychology aspect interests me no end Pj. Should be interesting to work him out and find what makes him tick.

Sam.
 

theinfantry

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I've found with my two that recall is the thing to get onboard a 100%, once they get their nose on the scent its head down and catch up with em, mine aren't road runners they are pretty pretty steady, but in thick ground cover they just plod on and cover some distance and melt into cover you could walk over them, harness does help greatly in that you can follow the line

My eldest one only breaks into cover on a sure scent, the pup on the other hand just busts through it and Carries on very focused

Ive got my youngest one on harness work now and it does help to switch them on / off they need their time off for fun and games, they very easily slip into work mode because they want to please you all the time 24/7

Good luck and happy tracking - enjoy - Teckels are great companions

Question...

Do you use a lead and collar for everyday stuff?

I was thinking collar/lead for walks etc. Then harness for ‘work’. In my eyes it makes sense to have a defined way of him switching mindsets.

Sam.
 

Overlay

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Question...

Do you use a lead and collar for everyday stuff?

I was thinking collar/lead for walks etc. Then harness for ‘work’. In my eyes it makes sense to have a defined way of him switching mindsets.

Sam.

Hi Sam

yep collar on all the time and leads, if I’m in a clear bit of walking ground I dispense with leads if it’s safe and let them have a good uncluttered run

After dusk I put the Additional light collars on whether walks or work, if they slither off I have at least got a bead on em.
they disappear really quickly.

Harness on only when working, the older one reads me like a book, He knows when his turn is here, I’m sure if if he could do a buckle up he would put it on himself, just quietly show them ropes and they’ll pick it up PDQ.

like us they need their downtime.
 

theinfantry

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Hi Sam

yep collar on all the time and leads, if I’m in a clear bit of walking ground I dispense with leads if it’s safe and let them have a good uncluttered run

After dusk I put the Additional light collars on whether walks or work, if they slither off I have at least got a bead on em.
they disappear really quickly.

Harness on only when working, the older one reads me like a book, He knows when his turn is here, I’m sure if if he could do a buckle up he would put it on himself, just quietly show them ropes and they’ll pick it up PDQ.

like us they need their downtime.

Top tips. Thank you Philip 🙌
 

Keith Edmunds

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Question...

Do you use a lead and collar for everyday stuff?

I was thinking collar/lead for walks etc. Then harness for ‘work’. In my eyes it makes sense to have a defined way of him switching mindsets.

Sam.

Totally agree, although most dogs will also know the difference between a 'specific tracking collar' and their normal collar. Some add a hawking bell to the harness or tracking collar to give further distinction.
 

theinfantry

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Morning chaps,

thought I’d share a couple photos of the new pup. He’s doing very well, bold as brass!

hope you’re all well,

Sam.
 

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