Fox bullets for 9.3x74r?

[robrecht]

Does anyone have experience with reloading the copper 'fox bullets' in a 9.3x74r?

I know they offer bullets in 200gr tipless, 220gr and 250gr, but all data i find are for the 9.3x62
Both cartridges use the same 0.366 bullet so i'd think some data for the rimmed version is out there, i just have not found it yet.

Barnes also offers copper projectiles in the 250gr/286gr TSX FB and 250gr/286gr banded solid.

I'm weary of just copying the barnes data over to the fox bullets because there probably are construction/design diffirences between the brands when it comes to the projectiles.

If i can't find anything regarding the fox bullets, i''ll probably order the barnes ones and load those up.

 

[webley701]

Fox bullets own website offers a download of their loading data. The data includes a load for the 9.3x74R using the 220 grn bullet & N140.

https://www.foxbullets.eu/reloading-data/

 

[Jagdmatch]

I have looked at them but (it may be shooter myth) I have heard stories about double rifle barrels not reacting well with copper. As I mainly shoot my OU Browning on on ranges it’s not an issue at the moment but will be eventually

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

They are also on the Vihtavouri powder site

Drop me a line and I can run a quickload for you

Just load like any other bullet in that weight
Its the length you will need to address as the conical ogive doesnt allow standard OAL
It will be shorter

 

[robrecht]

They are also on the Vihtavouri powder site

Drop me a line and I can run a quickload for you

Just load like any other bullet in that weight
Its the length you will need to address as the conical ogive doesnt allow standard OAL
It will be shorter

i have not found them on the VV site or in my 2024 powder manual, at least nothing on the 9.3x74r, they do have data on the 9.3x62.
Where did you find them?
Maybe i'm just completely missing them and i need to get a pair of glasses

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

I have looked at them but (it may be shooter myth) I have heard stories about double rifle barrels not reacting well with copper. As I mainly shoot my OU Browning on on ranges it’s not an issue at the moment but will be eventually

We have developed custom loads for several double OU and SxS in 240 H&H Flanged, .303. 7x64r, 8x57R, 9.3x74r
all shot well
most ammo produced to regulate at between 50-75m and all produced sub MOA in Fox, Peregrine and Hornady

not sure where the stories come from
We regulate ammo to rifles.
Utterly pointless (IMO) relaying ribs and muzzle wedges in the hope that a particular ammo manufacturer A) keeps producing the ammo it is regulated too, or B) sticks to the same recipe!

 

[Jagdmatch]

We have developed custom loads for several double OU and SxS in 240 H&H Flanged, .303. 7x64r, 8x57R, 9.3x74r
all shot well
most ammo produced to regulate at between 50-75m and all produced sub MOA in Fox, Peregrine and Hornady

not sure where the stories come from
We regulate ammo to rifles.
Utterly pointless (IMO) relaying ribs and muzzle wedges in the hope that a particular ammo manufacturer A) keeps producing the ammo it is regulated too, or B) sticks to the same recipe!

Mine regulates well as it’s an over and under and can adjust myself. I think the story came from people using older side by sides and the pattern of the rifling appearing on the outside of the barrel! I might give the fox bullets a go!

 

[Heym SR20]

Mine regulates well as it’s an over and under and can adjust myself. I think the story came from people using older side by sides and the pattern of the rifling appearing on the outside of the barrel! I might give the fox bullets a go!

German friends use the 9.3mm Fox bullets on Wild Boar. The pigs do not like them at all. Admittedly they are using the 9.3x62, but bullets don’t really care about the case they are fired from. 9.3x62 and 9.3x74R are pretty close in velocities to have min effect on terminal performance.

 

[stevec]

Not to divert this, but is there not an issue with a 9.3x62 or a 9.3x74 not being able to drive non-toxic bullets fast enough?

A friend of mine has just swapped his 9.3x62 for a 338 Win Mag for this reason - he was worried about expansion at lower velocities.

 

[Jagare]

I have looked at them but (it may be shooter myth) I have heard stories about double rifle barrels not reacting well with copper. As I mainly shoot my OU Browning on on ranges it’s not an issue at the moment but will be eventually

I read that same myth about copper bullets in a double rifle. My Merkel 160E 8x57jrs was regulated with, Lapua Naturalis at the factory and I have developed three different loads that shoot extremely well in the Merkel. Two copper, 180grn Fox classic hunter and a Lapua Naturalis 180grn load plus a Sierra 180grn prohunter load. I can shoot any of those loads without altering the scope.

 

[Jagare]

Not to divert this, but is there not an issue with a 9.3x62 or a 9.3x74 not being able to drive non-toxic bullets fast enough?

A friend of mine has just swapped his 9.3x62 for a 338 Win Mag for this reason - he was worried about expansion at lower velocities.

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me. I shoot two copper loads in my 8x57jrs double rifle. The 8x57jrs is not exactly a hypersonic round but it kills boar, red and fallow well at normal hunting ranges. 9.3x62 and 9.3x74R aren't exactly long range cartridges. It sound like your mate made up the fairy story to justife buying a .338.

 

[jthyttin]

There are plethora of monolithic 9.3mm bullet available by European boutique manufacturers. Especially in +- 200gr weights, that is neglected by US manufacturers and to some extent by larger European manufacturers.

While monolithics can be tailored to certain impact velocities, and thus e.g. 286gr 9.3mm mono could be fine, I'd try to find something between 200gr and 250gr if I were to develop a load. Double rifles might present extra head ache, for the regulation.

You can look at e.g. grauwolf.net to get an idea of selection. Actual purchase might be easier or even cheaper through some other channels, depending on your location.