Essexsussex
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Also I don’t have any good reason for a new wife however far fetched. She’s a good’un!If it was Friday I would post D-I-V-O-R-C-E by Tammy Wynette
Good luck BTW
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Rhodesianjess
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Your reply gave me reason to smile today remembering my late Father. He moved to the UK in 1981 when we sold up in Rhodesia due to the impending mess Zimbabwe was to descend into. He brought all his household effects which included his considerable firearms collection.
He took advice and duly was interviewed by the FEO in Norfolk, where he'd settled. Explained that they'd arrived in a shipping container with the rest of his household effects,he was granted for the handguns and shotguns no problems.
The 470 nitro double however caused some issues. The FEO asked him what he wanted it for,Dad replied big stuff or elephant. FEO replied we don't don't have elephant in Norfolk, Dad's reply that he was very good at culling elephant was the cause of this absence didn't go down well
Granted for trips back to Africa, which he did annually until shortly before his death aged 93, but it was a close run thing. He always reckoned that particular FEO had had a humour bypass.
Thanks for the post, good memories of much loved man.
Essexsussex
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Love this!Your reply gave me reason to smile today remembering my late Father. He moved to the UK in 1981 when we sold up in Rhodesia due to the impending mess Zimbabwe was to descend into. He brought all his household effects which included his considerable firearms collection.
He took advice and duly was interviewed by the FEO in Norfolk, where he'd settled. Explained that they'd arrived in a shipping container with the rest of his household effects,he was granted for the handguns and shotguns no problems.
The 470 nitro double however caused some issues. The FEO asked him what he wanted it for,Dad replied big stuff or elephant. FEO replied we don't don't have elephant in Norfolk, Dad's reply that he was very good at culling elephant was the cause of this absence didn't go down well
Granted for trips back to Africa, which he did annually until shortly before his death aged 93, but it was a close run thing. He always reckoned that particular FEO had had a humour bypass.
Thanks for the post, good memories of much loved man.
Mine too, she lets me shoot 2-3 times a week and buy loads of rifles
.(And is generally a great mother and wife)
I just wanted to say thank you to the OP and contributors to this thread. Obviously we don’t make up reasons, but as someone new to the system in the uk it was helpful hearing people’s rational and purposes for requesting another rifle. As always there is great info to glean from the SD community. Thanks! 
Never join a shooting club and use that as justification, that's just one advice.
I would use the fact that you want to use one for night work and pick say the other for day work, keep it simple dont need much explanation . For example.
I have
6.5 creed for night work . 6.5 prc for day on deer
270 for spare guest rifle and wild boar
22-250 for night time foxes and night Roe and .223 for Roe day time and fox.
.243 as spare Roe rifle
22lr one for rabbit daytime and one for rabbit night time .
.17hmr barrel for one of the CZ455 for foxing in closer areas and hares.
All have specific jobs . But its my job . A little Harder for recreational use.
I would use the fact that you want to use one for night work and pick say the other for day work, keep it simple dont need much explanation . For example.
I have
6.5 creed for night work . 6.5 prc for day on deer
270 for spare guest rifle and wild boar
22-250 for night time foxes and night Roe and .223 for Roe day time and fox.
.243 as spare Roe rifle
22lr one for rabbit daytime and one for rabbit night time .
.17hmr barrel for one of the CZ455 for foxing in closer areas and hares.
All have specific jobs . But its my job . A little Harder for recreational use.
enfieldspares
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I have had, twice, two identical rifles in the same calibre. 2 x .270 WCF BRNO ZKK and 2 x Parker Hale M81 Classic also in .270 WCF. So it was never an issue for me as I had genuine good reason for why.
BUT SEE MY FINAL REMARKS.
I think that a 7mm Rem Magnum and a 7mm Mauser would make sense if you handload as that way there's one bullet will fit both guns. This was especially so when expanding bullets were s5 (thank the Tories for that) and still pertinent now that non-lead bullets are coming to pass. The 7mm RM can shoot 140 grain and 175 grain just as can the 7mm Mauser and so one box of hundred non-lead 160 grain (my favoured weight in .284" bullets when I had my .280 Remington) can be experimented on in both rifles.
You just need to be honest with your good reason. Mine was that of the BRNO one wore a fixed power 4x Zeiss-Jena and the other a fixed power 6x Zeiss-Jena. In the P-Hale rifles one had a 3-9x36 Zeiss Diavari and the other a 1-4x24 Zeiss Diavari. You may find that you have similar "needs" with a high power 'scope on the 7mm RM and a low power or even iron sights only on the 7mm Mauser.
But always have an honest and genuine "good reason" and don't make up one that isn't true. Firearms licensing in the UK is done on a good faith and "trust" basis. So don't take the proverbial p1ss.
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I'd qualify that, never use the club membership just to get a firearm for hunting.
But you have to have club membership to get a firearm for target shooting.
The op needs to get his reason straight in his own mind first.
Then, on the form, put down either "target shooting" and/or "deer hunting and aolq" (or whatever reasons he has) and wait for any questions when interviewed to get more specific. The application for doesn't need to be too specific.
Be truthful to yourself at the get go , you have 7mm that needs selling or fixing up with a new barrel, which is not cheap. Yeah the FEO will want a good reason for each, You will need a good reason which is likely to be tough for yet another deer rifle ? "Because you would like one" ( your words ). a 223 , 22LR etc to add ? then the why gets very easy via foxes and such . Hey -ho though you never know and licensing decisions are down to your particular force / Chief constable.
Personally i feel if the firearms are correctly used and stored it makes no real difference Whatever you do lets hear how it goes for you all the best with it
Essexsussex
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And that’s thing as usual with all of this, interpreted differently all over the place.
I’ve seen folk who have just got a license get five centrefires and in that case good reason probably is because they’d like one.
Anyway we will see and I don’t really mind how it plays out.
There is one thing to add here .
If your asking for a variation it might not even be seen by an FEO unless Firearms dept deemed it necessary to send a FEO, so keeping your reason simple spare deer rifle is a satisfactory request . IF the Firearms Dept. Think that is an unreasonable request will they send that to your FEO for followup to find out why you feel you need that caliber.
So I deal with FEO's all over the country, as I manage syndicates my members FEO's contact me around once a year, around about syndicate renewal time as many guys use their syndicates to get their tickets open or a bigger caliber.
A couple of years back a guy on my syndicate asked for a .338 Lapua his justification was to shoot deer. Firearms dept. Thought that was a weird request, now Inverness are amazing and they do know their stuff, they deal with all sorts of weird and wonderful calibers specially from those coming from abroad, they sent out the FEO and the first contact was myself as the land manager for that ground and when he asked is the ground suitable for a .338 lapua I said yes but am not sure Sika and Roe justify that size of caliber, it is way overkill and I dont think it is a great choice of cal for that property as it has regular dog walkers etc and flat forestry.
The guy got refused,
So even if you think deer is a suitable reason they might think otherwise.
I DO NOT think you have a problem though just putting down deer and leaving it as that as you already have approval for a 7mm, only time they would really put out for further enquiry is if your asking for a bigger caliber from what you already have, unless you were going to a larger deer caliber on their approved list, for instance if you had a .243 but you want a .270 or 308. Etc etc
Put the variation in and just put deer in the box. One word dont over complicate it.
Like others have said be sure in your own head though thats your justification.
If your asking for a variation it might not even be seen by an FEO unless Firearms dept deemed it necessary to send a FEO, so keeping your reason simple spare deer rifle is a satisfactory request . IF the Firearms Dept. Think that is an unreasonable request will they send that to your FEO for followup to find out why you feel you need that caliber.
So I deal with FEO's all over the country, as I manage syndicates my members FEO's contact me around once a year, around about syndicate renewal time as many guys use their syndicates to get their tickets open or a bigger caliber.
A couple of years back a guy on my syndicate asked for a .338 Lapua his justification was to shoot deer. Firearms dept. Thought that was a weird request, now Inverness are amazing and they do know their stuff, they deal with all sorts of weird and wonderful calibers specially from those coming from abroad, they sent out the FEO and the first contact was myself as the land manager for that ground and when he asked is the ground suitable for a .338 lapua I said yes but am not sure Sika and Roe justify that size of caliber, it is way overkill and I dont think it is a great choice of cal for that property as it has regular dog walkers etc and flat forestry.
The guy got refused,
So even if you think deer is a suitable reason they might think otherwise.
I DO NOT think you have a problem though just putting down deer and leaving it as that as you already have approval for a 7mm, only time they would really put out for further enquiry is if your asking for a bigger caliber from what you already have, unless you were going to a larger deer caliber on their approved list, for instance if you had a .243 but you want a .270 or 308. Etc etc
Put the variation in and just put deer in the box. One word dont over complicate it.
Like others have said be sure in your own head though thats your justification.
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