Gordons Reloading Tool (GRT)
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I too have downloaded and had a play with this tool.
Looks pretty good thus far, although I'd echo the above saying that it needs more powders to be added and refined.
That said, I've run some of my current loads for .270win, 375H&H and 44mag and they're pretty good on the whole. Velocities are reasonably accurate, plus /minus 100fps anyway, whilst the pressure warnings mostly align with the actual pressure signs for 375 and .270 (never bothered pushing the 44 with their list of powders, so can't comment).
I'd say if they can expand the powder list and refine the models a bit based on actual user data, it'll be good enough for my requirements.
In the mean time, I've worked up a pressure series for N150 and 300gr TSX for the 375 based on their values (which broadly mirror the Barnes and Nosler published values), lets see how it goes!
Oh, and it does have a powder recommending tool of sorts, or at least the capability to run every powder in the database against a st of requirements (calibre, %burn, velocity, case fill) to give a short list to try.
Al
Looks pretty good thus far, although I'd echo the above saying that it needs more powders to be added and refined.
That said, I've run some of my current loads for .270win, 375H&H and 44mag and they're pretty good on the whole. Velocities are reasonably accurate, plus /minus 100fps anyway, whilst the pressure warnings mostly align with the actual pressure signs for 375 and .270 (never bothered pushing the 44 with their list of powders, so can't comment).
I'd say if they can expand the powder list and refine the models a bit based on actual user data, it'll be good enough for my requirements.
In the mean time, I've worked up a pressure series for N150 and 300gr TSX for the 375 based on their values (which broadly mirror the Barnes and Nosler published values), lets see how it goes!
Oh, and it does have a powder recommending tool of sorts, or at least the capability to run every powder in the database against a st of requirements (calibre, %burn, velocity, case fill) to give a short list to try.
Al
For all those Mac using reloaders out there I noticed that GRT has a Linux version as well as Windows. Great I thought, just invest in and boot off a USB stick to use GRT...
I have managed to create and get my Mac running on a linux USB stick, but had been unable to register with GRT for either the software download or the community and get an activation code. This has been going on for a few days...
Update....Success I tried registering yet again with a new user name and email address and had instant success...guess it was the dropped connection....
Alan
I have managed to create and get my Mac running on a linux USB stick, but had been unable to register with GRT for either the software download or the community and get an activation code. This has been going on for a few days...
Update....Success I tried registering yet again with a new user name and email address and had instant success...guess it was the dropped connection....
Alan
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Hi Alan, I can see you have tried the most obvious fixes.
You should be able to email Gordon at gordon@grtools.de
Best of luck,
SCC
You should be able to email Gordon at gordon@grtools.de
Best of luck,
SCC
So...I have managed to down load and extract the files...but am now stuck with my ignorance of how to install or run an application in a Linux system...double clicking doesn't work nor does Run from the contextual dialog....Don't know if that is a Linux issue or a "live persistent USB linux" issue or whether it is an Ubuntu on a Mac problem...or just a me problem!
Love computers.
Alan
Great news for Mac users...
Just to add to the thread that thanks to a PM nudge from @SCC I have now managed to download and run the Windows version of Gordons Reloading Tool on my MacBook Pro using a brilliant bit of software called CrossOver which is £38 and does not require you to buy a Windows licence. CrossOver has a 14 day trial and is based on the open source Wine...I have yet to see if Wine will run it.
It took a few minutes to sort and get running...most of the time was waiting for our slow Broadband to download stuff.
Alan
Gazza0208
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OK, I am now on the fourth stage of trying with this software, been succesful just once, its complex, not clear, it does finally give some sort of approximate figures, the site is pretty awful and cluttered to get around, the layout finally when you get there is soooooooo cramped with far too much unnecessary (box filling) information, you got to ask yourself if you really require something like this do you want to spend hundreds of hours trying for a minor piece of information... for something I finally found it did not have. I am sure its in its infancy...but I dont really see it going anywhere until it gets to be vastly more user friendly, sort of guess its looking for a sponsor to get itself "rich", the information is secondary unless all the punters put it on for free. Tried again today, and been blocked again on updated software downloads from the originating site due to a failure and Runtime errors.
I have not had any problems with it, I have five tabs open each with a different bullet.
I do find the text font a bit clunky/ugly but presumed that was standard Windows appearance. I agree it is tightly packed on the screen
The down side I have found is not with the programme itself but the results...It reckons some of my preferred / most accurate loads are over pressure, and the others are close to maximum. The temperature on GRT defaults to 21˚C and I notice that if I put in the 15˚C ambient of the railway tunnel range they were developed in they don't look as bad....The predicted speeds are also slower relative to the loads than my chronograph gives so I must explore further.
So I can thank GRT to prompt me to review those high loads, especially the ones I use for day time/summer hunting.
The only problems I have had are with the registration, both for the programme and for the forum/Discord. I had to do multiple attempts, and maybe because of our slow flakey broadbands, but I have ended up registered with GRT under one user name and another on the forums...this means that when I click on the help menu link I am sent back to a dead end registration system loop that does not accept the password and will not allow me to change the user name...grrr.
Alan
I do find the text font a bit clunky/ugly but presumed that was standard Windows appearance. I agree it is tightly packed on the screen
The down side I have found is not with the programme itself but the results...It reckons some of my preferred / most accurate loads are over pressure, and the others are close to maximum. The temperature on GRT defaults to 21˚C and I notice that if I put in the 15˚C ambient of the railway tunnel range they were developed in they don't look as bad....The predicted speeds are also slower relative to the loads than my chronograph gives so I must explore further.
So I can thank GRT to prompt me to review those high loads, especially the ones I use for day time/summer hunting.
The only problems I have had are with the registration, both for the programme and for the forum/Discord. I had to do multiple attempts, and maybe because of our slow flakey broadbands, but I have ended up registered with GRT under one user name and another on the forums...this means that when I click on the help menu link I am sent back to a dead end registration system loop that does not accept the password and will not allow me to change the user name...grrr.
Alan
AN DU RU FOX
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mines the same cant get past register,say la grrrrr!
I've been playing with this on a MacBook Pro this afternoon, I installed it on a W7 virtual machine that I otherwise use for some car diagnostics stuff. I had registered previously but did a download of the latest Beta 2020.1658 within W7. I've been looking at loads for .223, .308 and 6.5 CM. The load I'm most familiar with is for the .308 using 41.5gn of N140 pushing a 150gn Sierra SBT. Gordon's tool muzzle velocity of 2430fps is a little lower than what I measured at around 2470fps, both lower than Sierra's figure of 2600fps.
I've not used QL so can't compare the two but I found GRT easy and intuitive to use and I like the interface. There's loads of information available from the software and used in conjunction with other published material I think I'll find it a useful tool.
One thing that I found interesting was the figure for burnt propellant, 88.4% for my load and 94.7% for Sierra's max load of 44.7gn. That's a fair bit of burnout outside the barrel.
I've not used QL so can't compare the two but I found GRT easy and intuitive to use and I like the interface. There's loads of information available from the software and used in conjunction with other published material I think I'll find it a useful tool.
One thing that I found interesting was the figure for burnt propellant, 88.4% for my load and 94.7% for Sierra's max load of 44.7gn. That's a fair bit of burnout outside the barrel.
big ears
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+1 Bill Gates has a lot to answer for
Also got it running on my MacBook Pro via VirtualBox running Windows 10.
havent had much chance to play around yet with data but looks good so far and will only get better over time if people give feedback.
Be good if they did launch a Mac version as would plug that gap we all have
havent had much chance to play around yet with data but looks good so far and will only get better over time if people give feedback.
Be good if they did launch a Mac version as would plug that gap we all have
Gazza0208
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OK, I persevered and they seem to have changed some software for the download file thats given. Works like clockwork and data thats not on Quickload seems to be appearing rapidly on here, but that can work both ways, I assume as people input information due to it being Free so anyone can access it to place logical information. Its better to start in the Compact Mode (I found) prior to going to the Expert mode, its a better learning station, you can flick back and forth quite easy though, I see no reason as to why one of the larger boys wont take a shine to it. I used it for a thorough detail and informative look on two loads, and it was perfect, also today someone has logged thier speeds on the same load factor so there's a plus point indicator as I am not going to get out in awhile by the look of the weather!
Sorry no. I downloaded Ubuntu and was going to run that from a 64GB USB stick. But then I ran into problems of how to install the linux version of GRT ...see post #25 above, could have done with your Ubuntu knowledge then!
I have ended up running the Windows version of GRT with CrossOver which interprets/translates the commands direct without needing to run a version of Windows in between...it is based on Wine which is an open source project...Crossover costs £38
Alan
I have ended up running the Windows version of GRT with CrossOver which interprets/translates the commands direct without needing to run a version of Windows in between...it is based on Wine which is an open source project...Crossover costs £38
Alan
Yup. My old Win10 tower started to blue screen. So it is now a dual boot Linuxmint platform with the Cinnamon desktop. I cannot recall the last time I used Windows. Linux distros have become as turnkey as any pc solution with user friendly gui front end. [obviously power users will hop on command line periodically]
The ubuntu version I use is WINE free. So the GRT tool runs as true linux app. In terms of install, it was a case of downloading the zip, unzipping to desktop folder, and clicking the executable. [All files need to be co-located or appropriately linked if stored elsewhere] I.e. this app did not need to be installed using the Linuxmint software manager.
AN DU RU FOX
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still the same no joymines the same cant get past register,say la grrrrr!
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