Gun cabinet install advice

[DirkDiggler]

Hi all
looking for advice on best method to install a gun cabinet.
The internal wall is thermalite blocks then cavity into brick.
I'm thinking of using resin anchors into the brick but a bit stumped as to how to get the resin into the brick through the block and cavity as the tubes i've seen don't seem to be a long enough nozzle.
Has anyone successfully installed overcoming my issue?
Advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

 

[Will the chippy]

A long sleeve anchor to open out on the backside of the thermalite block. Or a concrete fixing into the brick behind but you'll need up to a 300mm fixing. Any fixing into thermalite will likely pull out, there a nightmare to fix to.

 

[Rutland lad]

You can use resin to set the threaded bar into the block.
You don’t need to go through the block then into the brickwork.

I’ve done this a couple of times on modern houses. Find where the safe will sit, make sure the skirting board is removed in that area. I used a 1 1/2” wood bit to go through the plasterboard so I could then see what I was doing. Once I’d made that hole I then lifted the safe into position and marked the block with a soft pencil through the mounting holes, then removed the safe again. Checked measurements against rear of safe, and used masonry drill to make holes in the block.
Used the resin and the threaded bar - cut to exact length so there wasn’t 3” of bar protruding into the rear wall of the safe.
Whilst the resin was still soft, placed safe back against wall to ensure any slight variation in position could be accounted for by getting all bolts through all holes then let resin set firm. Once done, gently nip up nuts on decent washers.
The larger holes will be covered by safe, jobs a good ‘un

 

[Rutland lad]

A long sleeve anchor to open out on the backside of the thermalite block. Or a concrete fixing into the brick behind but you'll need up to a 300mm fixing. Any fixing into thermalite will likely pull out, there a nightmare to fix to.

You are right - but my first safe had to be fitted against block party wall in attic space by order of FEO (!) and I learnt a lot through that. It also had to be off the floor by some distance too, so I became very strong in getting up there in the first place then lifting it onto threaded bar already set !
Talk about making things difficult.

 

[Rutland lad]

Bottom line is take your time, get the threaded bar secure in the resin and it will be rock solid.

I’ve done a few large flat screen TV’s for elderly neighbours using same methods and all are very secure in the blockwork using Wickes resin.

 

[Will the chippy]

If you do use resin, which I'm sure will be fine make sure you've got the dust out the holes.

 

[Tim.243]

Hi all
looking for advice on best method to install a gun cabinet.
The internal wall is thermalite blocks then cavity into brick.
I'm thinking of using resin anchors into the brick but a bit stumped as to how to get the resin into the brick through the block and cavity as the tubes i've seen don't seem to be a long enough nozzle.
Has anyone successfully installed overcoming my issue?
Advice would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Not easy, you could open up the block work for clearance, long drill the brick work and use a raw bolt fixing fixing with studding nut and big washer,
that done, make a gasket to retain the chem fix and fill the large hole a bit at a time. Not easy but with a piece of ply as a hole pattern it will work, different but close to the above replies just depends on how you are at doing this type of get around fix.
Lots of fixes to use you just need one to suit what you can do.

 

[Cyres]

Resin anchors into thermalight block. Ensure you clean dust out of hole. Either use a bottle type brush or blow out. If using 10m studding drill out holes in cabinet to 12mm to give you a bit of wiggle room and use heavy washers.
Offer cabinet up to wall and mark position of holes before enlarging the cabinet holes. You can use special marker pen. Otherwise use a suitable size timber bit to mark position of holes. Remove cabinet and carefully drill holes thermalights won't need much pressure but ensure you drill at 90° to the wall. Ideally drill as far as posible but not completely through the block.
Resin might go off v quickly so you need to be quick and may help to have spare set of hands.
If you cut your own studding remember to put a nut on before . Make cut chamfer end and then unscrew nut this ensures thread is good. Then Try putting nut back on. It should go on without any problem.
Also if possible screw base of cabinet to floor boards. Coach screws are suitable.
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[Heym SR20]

Depending on strength of wall, consider putting some bolts down into the floor.

But be realistic, most typical brattonsound type gunsafes won’t withstand somebody with a JCB digger or other suitable tools. They are to prevent opportunistic intruders or households members in a fit of rage from easy access to firearms.

 

[frank123]

I moved all mine yesterday.

12mm holes, 10mm bolts. Drill, blow the dust out the holes, bang LOADS of resin in starting from the back. Set the bolt straight. Cure for 10 mins and check it’s not moved. then cure for 1h ish. Tighten up and recheck door shuts properly!!

Honestly the wall will come down first

 

[shbangsteve]

If thermolite is all you have, corefix are very good. I hang all the curtain rails up with these and have yet to have any pull out.

 

[DirkDiggler]

All great advice
Going to give the resin anchors a go

Cheers

 

[JTO]

There are some sort of mini rawlbolts that are used for suspending stuff like heating pipes from concrete floors. Threaded bar, cut to length, are just screwed into them. Needs a tight hole, but the resin would take care of that.

 

[Jh1986]

Recently did a family member's 2 cabinets and, since doing mine, I now always use this stuff.



You have to work quick as once it sets, it's going nowhere.



Combined with the above threaded rod, washers and bolts

 

[VSS]

I think the real answer is to get such a big cabinet that you don't have to bolt it to anything. Just live in it, with your guns.