Same here. There is a think lump of foam in the bottom of my cabinet.
Guns in cabinets - muzzle up or muzzle down?
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Same here. There is a think lump of foam in the bottom of my cabinet.
MountainStalker2
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The best way is muzzle down for both guns and rifles to stop oil running running back into the action and stock. Put a piece of synthetic carpet or foam rubber under the muzzles to protect the crown. Use nothing organic, (cotton, cloth, leather etc) that will absorb the lubricant and absorb moisture from the air. When firearms are stored for a long time rust normally is found in the top inches of the barrel when stored muzzle up if not watched carefully. Muzzle down appears to be safer in these circumstances.
Some recoil pads like do not last well stored muzzle up.
Some recoil pads like do not last well stored muzzle up.
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PeterH
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Rifles muzzle up and shotguns muzzle down - not for fear of oil but rifle tactical turrets take up too much room.
On the oil side of things, I am amazed that so many (too many) people seem to think that to protect your rifle/shotgun it is a requirement that the Legia (or whatever) spray can needs to be half emptied onto the metal work and in some case some of the woodwork then a quick wipedown with a cloth. Far better to do your spraying onto a lint free cloth which once done will only need the occasional top up spray and becomes the 'oily rag' - mine is over 10 years old.
With shotguns still predominantly made of wood, too much oil is their death knell - killed with kindness. After a wet day the most vunerable part of your shotgun rusting are the ribs. Remove dampness wth a piece of kitchen/bog paper assisted by a cocktail stick then the good old oily cloth. Failure to remove this moisture and simply spraying oil over it seals in the moisture - we charge £245 to relay ribs !!
On the oil side of things, I am amazed that so many (too many) people seem to think that to protect your rifle/shotgun it is a requirement that the Legia (or whatever) spray can needs to be half emptied onto the metal work and in some case some of the woodwork then a quick wipedown with a cloth. Far better to do your spraying onto a lint free cloth which once done will only need the occasional top up spray and becomes the 'oily rag' - mine is over 10 years old.
With shotguns still predominantly made of wood, too much oil is their death knell - killed with kindness. After a wet day the most vunerable part of your shotgun rusting are the ribs. Remove dampness wth a piece of kitchen/bog paper assisted by a cocktail stick then the good old oily cloth. Failure to remove this moisture and simply spraying oil over it seals in the moisture - we charge £245 to relay ribs !!
Brithunter
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If a gun gets really wet then standing it muzzle down of a wad of paper lets it drain. I leave for perhaps an hour whilst sorting out other things then if it's still wet of damp then a hair drier is very useful to warm up and drive off any moisture left in tight places. Once the gun is dry and warm a light oiling with an oil dampened cloth is carried out the bore of course is cleaned and oiled to remove any moisture trapped by fouling.
I have never removed shot gun stocks by rifle stocks are normally easily removed so the underside of the metal work can be also treated.
Edit:- For exterior and bore oiling I still use P-H Express oil. If long term storage is in mind then Youngs 303 is used. A suitable gun grease is slightly smeared onto hinge pins and bolt lugs occasionally so lightly that while it can be felt as slippery it cannot be seen easily by the eye.
I have never removed shot gun stocks by rifle stocks are normally easily removed so the underside of the metal work can be also treated.
Edit:- For exterior and bore oiling I still use P-H Express oil. If long term storage is in mind then Youngs 303 is used. A suitable gun grease is slightly smeared onto hinge pins and bolt lugs occasionally so lightly that while it can be felt as slippery it cannot be seen easily by the eye.
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Grouse Track
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Same as storing your penis in your speedo's, muzzle up!!!!
Virbius
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Have you got any toes left?
Apart from any other consideration, are we not required by law to store ammunition and rifles separately?
Schiehallion
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Good thinking 1995. Never thought of that. You should post that in the "Top Tips" category. Some beginners will certainly benefit from your wisdom.
By the way, I always have a round "up the spout" when driving to my stalking ground. I find it saves time when I get there.
S.
PeterH
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With that sort of sense - have you any surviving shooting buddies?
Brithunter
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Hmmm well is the rifle in use at the time or not?
Regardless of the safety aspect I believe the Police would view this as not being in use at the time as it's not actually in your hands. Should you leave the room for any reason such as to visit the bathroom then they will say your in breech of your security conditions and bye bye ticket and guns. Of course should your partner be sleeping in the same room you have then allowed someone unauthorised to have access unless of course said guns are on their own FAC.
I only left a shot gun out while waiting for ratty to show his nose again and went to do some reloading while things quietened down after shooting a couple when plod arrived the rest as they say is history.
Don't worry guys it was only a wind up, I posted it to see who would recognise it was an offence to store your rifle with ammo. Im suprised there has only been a couple of replies, but the winner for the quickest answer was "Dalua"....
Don't worry guys it was only a wind up, I posted it to see who would recognise it was an offence to store your rifle with ammo. Im suprised there has only been a couple of replies, but the winner for the quickest answer was "Dalua"....
Excellent! I I must be well to the fore for this year's SD humourless pedant award!
Excellent! I I must be well to the fore for this year's SD humourless pedant award!
No way. By my reckoning you must be running about 15th at the moment - you weren't even near excruciating?
Tackleberry270
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Most gunshops don't care for their guns with half as much care as I would for mine!
223
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Is this for long-term storage? If not then surely there's too much oil bein left up your barrel? Unless you're drying it out before you go shooting?
I speak from experience as had this with my HMR - bloody thing needs cleaning all the time to shoot straight, and when cleaning it one day i had it out of the stock and found it was dripping with built up cleaning oil that had run down. Needless to say I found an extra few pads or a boresnake down it to really mop up the oil solved that!
Defo barrel up on rifles though - d*ckheads at my range ruined my .243's thread by storing barrel down with no thread protector. Also my HMR had to be re-crowned despite the crown looking fine to the gun-smith's naked eye - i.e. Muzzles are suprisingly delicate on rifles.
Don't reckon it matters with shotguns but i store mine muzzle up out of habit - thinking about it though if I was 1995rs I'd probably sooner blow my toes off than my face
I speak from experience as had this with my HMR - bloody thing needs cleaning all the time to shoot straight, and when cleaning it one day i had it out of the stock and found it was dripping with built up cleaning oil that had run down. Needless to say I found an extra few pads or a boresnake down it to really mop up the oil solved that!
Defo barrel up on rifles though - d*ckheads at my range ruined my .243's thread by storing barrel down with no thread protector. Also my HMR had to be re-crowned despite the crown looking fine to the gun-smith's naked eye - i.e. Muzzles are suprisingly delicate on rifles.
Don't reckon it matters with shotguns but i store mine muzzle up out of habit - thinking about it though if I was 1995rs I'd probably sooner blow my toes off than my face
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