Gwp for fox

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wildman said:
I am a little confused here, are you bothered that the dog will not retrieve the fox or are you worried that it will not hunt down and 'take' a wounded fox?

wildman, the bitch is retrieving birds and rabbits etc . the question i am asking, are there memebers of the board that use a gwp for foxes that switched on to foxes later than two years old. the reason i settled on the breed after lengthy consideration was because they are very capable of the required task. bradstalk it is fine saying that your 7 month pup is showing good signs with the fallow etc but it doesnt take much to mentally ruin a 7 month old pup, i would be carefull not to expose it to a situation that mentally it is not capable of dealing with at this time.
keith
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8x57 said:
I have a GWP who when he was younger was quite capable of dealing with foxes, he seemed to have a natural hatred of them. I read that when the breed was being developed pups were delibrately set against foxes and cats (feral cats being a nuisance in Germany) and any dog who showed fear wasn't bred from. I don't know how true this is but most owners of GWP's have tales to tell of their dogs and of cats that crossed their paths at some time.
I must stress that I have never encouraged this trait in my dog and have done my best to discourage it.
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yes, they would and probaly still do put a 10 week old pup caged show it fully grown vixen /and it must raise it hakls to be included in any breeding programne, on average a gwp wont be mature until 5yrs give or take 6 mths, they will certainly track/hunt/kill fox, like anything in life you MUST do your homework on what you want dog to do some lines/kennels,are better than others for whatever discipline you intend to work dog too ,they are very much a specialist breed, and not merly a coat variation of the gsp,
 
Benc said:
Mustwork over near Aberystwyth is well worth a look as well, I llooked at quite a few before getting mine from them- they have a website:

HOME - Mustwork GWP working German Wirehaired Pointers uk
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My mustwork bitch is outstanding and will tackle any fox live or dead.
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I'd recomend mustwork to anyone looking for a good all round dog fit for purpose.

She wasn't quick to mature but once she got the idea she became a bit of a fox demon, what I will say is that once they have been asked to pin a deer or tackle a fox you can forget about a soft mouth on small game but you cant have it all, especially with an allrounder.

The next generation however are now six months and I am not even going to show them anything that isn't very dead for some time to come as i don't want to ruin a pup so early. They show real interest in deer the larder and I let them find easy deer that have been pronounced dead but its irresponsible to let such a young pup tackle live game. I'm sure bradstalk knows what he's doing. However I know of a ruined GWP from over exposure as a young pup.

Sam
 
Sam that's a beautiful picture you've posted, and the spitting image of my dog when he was younger. The only problem was that he brought two cats back to me in just such a manner, wagging his stubby tail as if to say "ain't I a good boy". But as you say hardmouthed- the closest thing to an alligator I've ever come across, he locks on to things very much like the English bull terrier I used to have.
 
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8x57 said:
Sam that's a beautiful picture you've posted, and the spitting image of my dog when he was younger. The only problem was that he brought two cats back to me in just such a manner, wagging his stubby tail as if to say "ain't I a good boy".
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That sounds so familiar! I found the hardest thing was taking the rollicking from the wife! She didn't like my explanation that a rollicking would ruin what would have been a perfect retrieve!
 
got a nice sized dog fox last night and was pleased when the gwp bitch brought it back to me. she must be a little slower to start than some of the other gwp in this thread but we are getting there. sorry the picture is of such poor qulaity

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after reading this thread i am interested to know on the dogs that retrieve foxes do any show signs to do this with other dogs or do they not see a fox like dogs .i would like my gsp to be an alrounder for fox and deer but im worried he would see another dog as a fox,atb wayne
 
My GWP is kenneled with a spaniel and has no problems with other dogs at all, a mate of mine uses a spaniel x lab for picking up foxes after a nights lamping and it has been known to retrieve smaller dogs like terriers (live) to hand when out shooting.
 
thanks for that i think i will carry on getting him steady with the deer and progress to fox later we are going to dog training at the moment as i need to keep him calm around other dogs and dont want to confuse the situation he might just decide to carry off one of the little snappy things at training:doh:and i might get banned:oops:,atb wayne
 
mereside said:
after reading this thread i am interested to know on the dogs that retrieve foxes do any show signs to do this with other dogs or do they not see a fox like dogs .i would like my gsp to be an alrounder for fox and deer but im worried he would see another dog as a fox,atb wayne
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Give the dog a bit of credit for having a brain it can tell the diffrence between dogs rats foxes or rabbits or what ever , when i used to field trail my GSP ,they killed rats foxes but never became hard mouthed on game, Iwas never chucked out of a field trail , won a few. I have both GSP and GWP ,They were bred to be allrounders and that included vermin killers , enclosed aPIC00671.webp pic of my GSP bitch at 11 months old retreiving a fox i shot with my .223 at 130yds ( gave me time to pick camera up while dog was reteiving ) ATB PaulPIC00670.webp
 
My Gsp would love to chew foxes but we have real bad mange around us so a bit worried about letting him near one.
I gave one a 50 yard head start the other morning it was close by the time they made the hedge
 
its worth using stronghold on them if they do play with foxes, gives the dog more protection from mange and any other mites etc carried on them. Not the cheapest but one of the better products
 
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