help with scope choice

[ezzy6.5]

Right lads, help me out before I loose what little is left of my marbles. A couple of weeks ago I bought a Z6i 5-30x50 with a BR ret. I just couldn't get on with it and PXed it for a Z6i 2.5-15x56. Sadly when it arrived it was a Z6 not a Z6i due to a bit of confusion on both mine and the sellers part. I now need to buy a replacement and can't get exactly what I want without putting another £500 to the pot. So I have to make the following choice.

S+B 2-10x56 flash dot
Z6i 3-18x50 gen 1 4Ai
Z6i 2-12x50 gen 1 4Ai
Zeiss Victory varipoint 3-12x56T* 69ret

I'm looking for the best option for last light deer stalking. Price wise there is about £100 between them. My mounts are high's so the smaller objective size wont let me mount it closer to the bore. Flash dot is out I think as i'm looking for a bit more mag.
So between the bottom 3 which would you chose and why? please dont confuse me by adding further suggestions to the mix.

Ezzy

 

[Offroad Gary]

3-18 swaro, forget getting close to bore, the ret will be same distance off whatever the objective size unless you change rings. 18 is better than 12.......

 

[2130martin]

Why couldnt you get on with the 5-30?and why not stick with the 2.5-15??

 

[Eric the Red]

Got to agree with the last post - why not stay with the Z6. Obviously depends on the ret - I have a 4A in mine and whether it be a last light or under the lamp it is excellent. I can understand not getting on wit the BR reticle.

 

[Mr Lewis]

The 3-18 would be the one I would choose from the above options

 

[FGYT]

if 10 x is not enough then neither is 12 x its t close to 10 so only choice in your list is the 18

 

[Monkey Spanker]

It would be the 3-18 for me also. I have a 2-12 Z6i but would prefer the 3-18 and intend to change it soon.
MS

 

[FGYT]

BTW thanks now ive looked closly at the range the Z6i 5-30 x50 with a ballistic turret and BR ret looks to be my ideal scope and the turret/ret ballistic app they have that maatches trajectory to the turret and reticule graduations at any zoom setting (obviously check with real rangeshooting) looks great

 

[Roedinator]

stu stick with what you got till the funds are there for the z61
anything else will just seem second best .
I had the same problem chooseing a scope for the 20 tac nearly drove me crazy
regards pete

 

[Rifles]

Right lads, help me out before I loose what little is left of my marbles. A couple of weeks ago I bought a Z6i 5-30x50 with a BR ret. I just couldn't get on with it and PXed it for a Z6i 2.5-15x56. Sadly when it arrived it was a Z6 not a Z6i due to a bit of confusion on both mine and the sellers part. I now need to buy a replacement and can't get exactly what I want without putting another £500 to the pot. So I have to make the following choice.

S+B 2-10x56 flash dot
Z6i 3-18x50 gen 1 4Ai
Z6i 2-12x50 gen 1 4Ai
Zeiss Victory varipoint 3-12x56T* 69ret

I'm looking for the best option for last light deer stalking. Price wise there is about £100 between them. My mounts are high's so the smaller objective size wont let me mount it closer to the bore. Flash dot is out I think as i'm looking for a bit more mag.
So between the bottom 3 which would you chose and why? please dont confuse me by adding further suggestions to the mix.

Ezzy

Take the 3-18 out of the equation. If you are only going on last light performance then you want a 7mm exit pupil. More mag means dimmer sight picture. That means on a 56 objective it will be 8 power and 50 objective will be 7 power ( ish ). Schmidt and Bender have dropped their warranty to 2 years which is not where I would spend my money . That leaves either the Z6i 2-12 or the Zeiss 3- 12x 56.

 

[I. Farticus]

6i 3-18 with BR-I is perfect for what I shoot - woodland stalking and 600yd range work... Not for everyone I appreciate, but for 1 scope it's got pretty much everything nailed

Cheers
i.

 

[FGYT]

Take the 3-18 out of the equation. If you are only going on last light performance then you want a 7mm exit pupil. More mag means dimmer sight picture. That means on a 56 objective it will be 8 power and 50 objective will be 7 power ( ish ). Schmidt and Bender have dropped their warranty to 2 years which is not where I would spend my money . That leaves either the Z6i 2-12 or the Zeiss 3- 12x 56.

yes and 7mm is if you have young eyes or are very lucky

the 3-18 still has the same 7mm @ 7 power as the 2-12 and the 8x for the 3-12 is little different ( optical quality will be more important for light transmission )

there is no diff really from 2 to 3 as a min power so as the OP wants more mag than 10 x and 12 is so close to that then get the 3-18 same low light more top end



ATB

​Duncan


PS Im biased as I like high mag top end scopes which is why the 5-30 appeals to me again Exit pupil is still 7 mm @ 7 power

 

[Effnjeff]

I have the 3-18x50 Swaro with BR reticle and am very happy with it.
The illuminated versions have a finer reticles, which in my opinion are a bit too fine and really need the illumination to be seen clearly in low light. A buddy has the 2.5-15x56 IR and I prefer mine in every aspect except maybe field of view. His also has the ballistic turret which I'm not keen on. Another buddy had the 5-30x50 IR and again I found quite fussy with eye relief and was prone to 'whiting out'
I did have the top of the range Victory Zeiss 3-12x56 and was underwhelmed, and replaced it with the Swaro.

 

[Psyxologos]

Right lads, help me out before I loose what little is left of my marbles. A couple of weeks ago I bought a Z6i 5-30x50 with a BR ret. I just couldn't get on with it and PXed it for a Z6i 2.5-15x56. Sadly when it arrived it was a Z6 not a Z6i due to a bit of confusion on both mine and the sellers part. I now need to buy a replacement and can't get exactly what I want without putting another £500 to the pot. So I have to make the following choice.

S+B 2-10x56 flash dot
Z6i 3-18x50 gen 1 4Ai
Z6i 2-12x50 gen 1 4Ai
Zeiss Victory varipoint 3-12x56T* 69ret

I'm looking for the best option for last light deer stalking. Price wise there is about £100 between them. My mounts are high's so the smaller objective size wont let me mount it closer to the bore. Flash dot is out I think as i'm looking for a bit more mag.
So between the bottom 3 which would you chose and why? please dont confuse me by adding further suggestions to the mix.

Ezzy

Sorted!

 

[Dawnraider]

I've got S&B flash dot 2.5-10x56 and the same in 3-12x50 and wouln't change them,rugged and excellent at last light,not that i wouldn't have a swaro though as well.

 

[ezzy6.5]

To answer some of your comments. The 5-30 had a very, very fine ret. My mate has a 2.5-15 with the Br and its much thicker. The 5-30 is a big scope, in my blaser mounts it looked a bit ridiculous. When i wound it up to anything higher than 15x i couldn't hold it steady enough to make use of it. Blooming incredible optics though. I specificaly wanted an illuminated ret as 90% of my stalking is last light. Im going with the 3-18x50 z6i with the 4ai ret. hope my missus doesn't look at my bank statement!!!!