How much ammo do I need for DSC1?
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I would imagine that the course instructors can tell if someone has a level of experience and I would hope they would adjust accordingly.
I don’t agree with timed shots as per @caberslash as I don’t think you would do that in the field, you shouldn’t be rushing anything, unless it was a simulated follow up shot. and freehand - no thanks, I would bet you could take a high number of regular experiences people and try them freehand at 50-60 yards and a high percentage would fail - not that they are bad shots but freehand just isn’t required. I can think of two instances, one to shoot a fox below a high seat that was so close it was just about below the ladder and shooting a roe over a wall - but other than that a bipod, bag, sticks or tree and nearly always available.
I believe the new test has a circle on the deer but anywhere in the H+L area is a kill on most deer so I don’t think the examiner would be a geeky fussed as long as it was in the right area. It’s not about grouping - it’s about all the shots being in the “kill area”….
I would struggle with the fallow and possibly the CWD and muntjac info as I have never seen any of them with regularity and I am not regularly shooting them, to me that’s one of the things where the DSC can be odd - you get a guy that never has and never will shoot a fallow but has to tell you it has XYZ traits.
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Gixer
This is what I would think would be common too - complacency. Pick up the rifle….Bang! But it’s not in the allocated 4” circle….although many don’t always shoot for that circle!A colleague of mine runs a lot of DSC1 courses and he tells me he has only ever had experienced stalkers and shooter fail the shooting test, normally the ones who think the test is too easy!
On my DSC1, both shooting assessment failures were due to rounds that were only 0.5" to 1" to the right of the target circle. In other words, it would have been a killing shot on a real deer. However, the guys failed the initial test (and the re-sit) that day.
To me, if the guy is a train wreck and also missing the kill zone then fair enough - but 1/2” outside of the circle but still in the kill zone is an examiner that is power tripping and enjoying it - it’s not practical. These people should be weeded out of the system.
I heard (second hand) of someone that had a fantastic grouping on a new DSC target, they were just under the circle however he was shooting at the lower part just above the rear of the leg. Nothing wrong with this and the instructor recognised that he was shooting at the deer - not a circle!
It is like a driving test - you study for it, take it by driving according to the test rules and regulations and once you pass it, you go back to driving with your normal one hand with a Big Mac in it (other fast foods are available), the other hand swiping left or right on Tinder/Grindr/non-binary dating sites on your mobile, while holding the wheel with your knees.
Mug up on the new DSC1 target, put the bullets inside the magic circles and you're fine. There was a target in the classroom for 3 days before the shooting assessment. Once you've got the certificate, then you can go back to shooting deer where you want.
If the assessors had actually passed the guys who failed, I would say in that case the assessors would need weeding out. Recognising failure (not rewarding it) is not a power trip, it is enforcing the test conditions.
Depends if the review of the target in nonsense. If all they are worried about is the circle - why is the circle not visible from the shooting distance (I was told it is the not visible when up at the target)
I would like to think training doesn’t just mean people do it that way and then forget it afterwards - I would prefer the training was accurate and realistic to begin with. If someone has hit behind the diaphragm area or ****s the target in the leg/jaw then fine - but if it’s in an area that we all know will lead to a dead deer - what’s the issue?
The circle is not visible from the shooting distance because deer aren't born like that, but the circle is in the killing area. The issue is it's a test and rules is rules.
Bummer of a birthmark!
See what you are saying but as long as there’s a hole in the heart/lung area - it should be ok. As you say deer don’t have circles on them so why does the DSC target need one? Most examiners should be able to assess where the hit is and say if it would be a good kill shot.
In the old test, you had to group 3 rounds in a designated 4" circle. If you put one (or more) outside, you failed. The same principle continues to apply under the new rules (although the body circle is bigger than 4") . Can't really see the problem here..............
Your last paragraph rings true for me as I sit now studying the traits of Muntjack and CWD prior to taking my test in Scotland!
Maybe one day I'll get so see one!
Well done!
patrickstar
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Hi completed it this weekend at Borders collage and used a total of 6 rounds and thats without checking zero but just take more if you want to have a couple of practice shots first .
Because it shoots so very differently than cup and core!
patrickstar
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it was a total 6 rounds mate 2 prone 100,2 siting 75,2 head shot 20,
Is that you or he?
patrickstar
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it was me mate
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