Is .22lr high velocity less prone to ricochet?

[SD198]

Hi all - I am thinking of trying something other than .22lr subs (I currently use Eley subs in my CZ455) for rabbits basically due to ricochet risk (not had a bad experience - yet- and am v selective about when I will take a shot but have heard the occasional whizzer and it un nerves me, especially as you can never tell where a stone might be lurking in the dirt). I was immediately thinking HMR (which would require a variation) but then read somewhere that .22lr high velocity rounds are supposedly less prone to ricochet; is that people 's experience (or am I better off just getting an HMR)?

Cheers

 

[Crowstalker]

Get hmr, there really isn't much difference in terms of ricochet between a sub sonic and super sonic 22 long rifle. You will be amazed how much better the hmr is in every way except noise.

 

[Klenchblaize]

My experience of hunting (expanding) high velocity .22lr ammo is accuracy is absolute pants.

K

 

[mealiejimmy]

Forget HV 22 - it still ricochets and if you are already worried about ricochets, worrying just a little bit less won't help you - getting an HMR will

Cheers

Bruce

 

[HonestJohn]

A strong FAC air rifle is likely a good option too, but the HMR also a grand choice.

 

[MAH]

trying something other than .22lr subs (I currently use Eley subs in my CZ455) for rabbits basically due to ricochet risk (

Have you tried the cci sub sonic segmented?
The idea is 3 section of lead, loosely bonded to form what looks like a standard 22 bullet, but they break up on contact.
Thus greatly reduces ricochet risk given they break up.
I've used them on rabbits and they really do break up.

Ps. I don't believe the 22lr hv theory.

M.

 

[ashray]

17 hmr also bounce and ricochet and the fragments travel further .!

 

[Smellydog]

Don't worry about it, they don't go far and if the fall out zone is to small you shouldn't be using it anyway.

 

[SD198]

Thanks for the responses. My rifle didn't like the cci segmenteds unfortunately. I have fac air but use it during the day.

 

[Smellydog]

17 hmr also bounce and ricochet and the fragments travel further .!

HMR is very unlike a 22 for ricochet.

 

[VSS]

. My rifle didn't like the cci segmenteds unfortunately.

That's a shame. I find them excellent.

 

[teflon]

.22 HV still has the risk of ricochet and in my experience ,less accuracy. As has been said .17 hmr if noise is not a factor, or failing that. .22/.25 FAC air.

 

[maxtich]

I remember when I first got my Hmr..15 years ago..I shot a magpie from 60 yds that was sitting on a branch with a lot thicker tree trunk directly behind as my backstop.
When I picked the dead magpie I also noticed that the round had passed straight through and not actually fragmented and there was a neat hole in the trunk directly behind!
So much for fragmenting!

 

[.25-06]

The following link may be of some use for outlining just how far your round will go without a suitable backstop. The crack of the HV just masks what the round is up to.

https://nra.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/NRA-RANGE-DESIGN-AND-SAFETY-HANDBOOK-DEC-2022-22-12-22-1.pdf

 

[Overlay]

CCI segmented are good but I changed due to a few boxes of different sized rounds and a odd ( 1in 500 say a flyer)
But a good round, you will get a bouncer with eley on occasions keep an eye on the ground your shooting on flint , rocks etc being a slightly slower round they a bouncing tendency which is a shame they are a very good round

I now use non toxic where I’m told to, lead anywhere else, segmented all the time slightly higher velocity but less ricochets is worth it

 

[Overlay]

All at 50yds

Is Left CCI
Middle copper hollow point
Right copper segmented
After a re zero I now only use copper segmented

CCI are reasonable on noise, the copper is the price you pay but are still good to go

 

[SD198]

Thanks. I may give cci another go...

 

[DVS1]

Thanks for the responses. My rifle didn't like the cci segmenteds unfortunately. I have fac air but use it during the day.

Could a barrel tuner be worth a try to see if you can get the segmenteds to work better?

 

[AHPP]

Everything ricochets, it's just that you can hear it with .22 subs. Watch videos of machine guns shooting tracer. If 140 ish grain 7.62 going broadly the same speed as HMR can't push a pebble out of the way to stick itself into the ground, what chance does a 17 grain .17 have?

 

[SD198]

Not heard of barrel tuner before - but they look a bit expensive for my needs