Is .243 big enough???

Very rarely clean mine and I have noticed that when the trigger is pulled almost always, something falls over.
 
as long as you dont mix your clothing up!:tiphat: ie dont stalk in a v neck with yellow diamonds on it,

I am fairly sure that somewhere I have seen a photo of someone stalking reds in Scotland wearing loud golf gear to prove that camouflage was not necessary. However its very possible I just made that up.
 
Ok, just to throw this in to then, are all the afore mentioned calibres as accurate as each other or of the box? I will probably buy new and homeload. Again, I feel accuracy plays a huge part of any rifles accuracy!
 
Ok, just to throw this in to then, are all the afore mentioned calibres as accurate as each other or of the box? I will probably buy new and homeload. Again, I feel accuracy plays a huge part of any rifles accuracy!


accuracy in the field is rarely (if ever) limited by what the rifle is capable of.....

one hole groups won't help you in -2deg driving sleet in the highlands lying in wet peat with the rain trickling down your neck staring at hinds through water droplets on your scope!
 
accuracy in the field is rarely (if ever) limited by what the rifle is capable of.....

one hole groups won't help you in -2deg driving sleet in the highlands lying in wet peat with the rain trickling down your neck staring at hinds through water droplets on your scope!

i agree but to start with an accurate rifle puts you at an advantage over a less accurate rifle
 
I dont think that anyones riffle is not accurate if they are going stalking thats why we all spend time zeroing, i am not happy with anything less than half inch to go out and point at a animal.so i agree with bewsher500 that conditions play a massive part in where your shot ends up ,but if you are confident in your kit that is one less thing to worry about ,as the last thing you should have is that little seed off dout .I have never laid in wet peat -2 with driving sleet , can only think that it must be quite challenging under those conditions i should think the glass fogging up is a pain as well .i wonder how manny of us on here have gone out in a windy wet and cold day , walk a few miles then put a target up at 150 yrds and seen how we are grouping are shots???. I havent ,i like to go and chek zero on a nice sunny day laying in the dry . I think what bewsher500 is trying to say is that having a megga accrate riffle is great but that just half of it, being able to take the right shot under hard condditions is marksmanship and that only comes with time and experience of actually being out in the field shooting deer in all types of conditions.
 
having a mega accurate rifle is great but that just half of it, being able to take the right shot under hard condditions is marksmanship and that only comes with time and experience of actually being out in the field shooting deer in all types of conditions.

Lots of mega accurate rifles fail the DSC1 shooters test when in the hands of people who can't handle pressure of an audience and shooting in potentially unusual positions
 
Thought you sweaty socks swore by .22's for little roe deer?

some do Gary

but i left scotland in 1973, been back just a few times to talk and on all occasions i have used a horrible .270 estate rifle,

bob.

mind you i have been here longer than i have been in Scotland.
 
says a guy was over-gunned for a roe at moderate distance! :stir:

same shot with a .222 and you wouldnt have seen him jump!

Frankly shot in the right place with anything from a .222 to 416 Rigby with a buck that's relaxed like that - the same result. If his adrenalin was up he might make in 30 to 40 yards. A bigger calibre might knock him over, or an explosive smaller bullet might dump more energy, but result is the same. Put the bullet in the wrong place, even with a 416 and it will go a long way. If you think a 416 has a 400gn bullet at 2,500 fps and is enough for 7,000kg elephant, surely a 50gn .22 or 75gn or 100gn .243 bullet at 3,000 fps is enough for a deer weighing 20 to 120kg.
 
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