Available: Italian wild boar.

[MAH]

This seams an odd tale: 20,000 wild boar in Rome.

Are there any hunter’s in Italy?

Seams like a business opportunity for an entrepreneur to help out (assuming that it's not fake news).

Article from todays Times attached.

PS: don't contact me I'm just sharing the article.
M.

 

[Roebuck]

On the BBC news as well!

 

[User00040]

Just send the right people in and the problem will go away

 

[Sampo]

Probably needs trapping as shooting within a heavily populated area may not be the best of options. Also there's nothing worse than a wounded boar in the city centre. Sometimes hunting may not be the best of solutions as one need to start with the source of why the wildlife decided to move to the city. Doesn't look like an easy problem to solve.

 

[Scipio]

Hello, well having been an italy based hunter until 2 weeks ago, i can say that yes, wild boar is hunted there, and it's hunted fairly aggressively. Both in various group hunting set ups, and by stalking.
Even the seemingly ever growing population of wolves are chipping in, with the population control of the boars.

But after 2 years of corona restricting hunting, and considering that boars can pretty much double their numbers in a year of the required food rescource is available, (and in italy it often is due a large aggricultural production of boar eateable produce), it is perhaps not strange that their numbers have gone up dramatically since 2020.
Hopefully this year it shall be a corona free hunting season, and their numbers might just start to get reduced to the size indicated by the state (as in Italy it is the state that decides on the amount of game to be taken, and them who has the right to delegate the harvesting to hunters).

This said, the city governance in some of the boar inflicted cities perhaps hasnt been the best either, and this has also been the case with regards to waste desposal.
This in turn means, that the ever opportunistic wild boars sense that there is an easy food scource available to them in the cities, And given we are talking urban areas it is an enviroment where they're unlikely to be shot at either. It makes for a bit of a perfect storm that way.

 

[User00040]

Hello, well having been an italy based hunter until 2 weeks ago, i can say that yes, wild boar is hunted there, and it's hunted fairly aggressively. Both in various group hunting set ups, and by stalking.
Even the seemingly ever growing population of wolves are chipping in, with the population control of the boars.

But after 2 years of corona restricting hunting, and considering that boars can pretty much double their numbers in a year of the required food rescource is available, (and in italy it often is due a large aggricultural production of boar eateable produce), it is perhaps not strange that their numbers have gone up dramatically since 2020.
Hopefully this year it shall be a corona free hunting season, and their numbers might just start to get reduced to the size indicated by the state (as in Italy it is the state that decides on the amount of game to be taken, and them who has the right to delegate the harvesting to hunters).

This said, the city governance in some of the boar inflicted cities perhaps hasnt been the best either, and this has also been the case with regards to waste desposal.
This in turn means, that the ever opportunistic wild boars sense that there is an easy food scource available to them in the cities, And given we are talking urban areas it is an enviroment where they're unlikely to be shot at either. It makes for a bit of a perfect storm that way.

Are dropping cage or door traps used?

Suspect that wolves mean poisoning is a no-go... (officially anyway!)

 

[Scipio]

Are dropping cage or door traps used?

Suspect that wolves mean poisoning is a no-go... (officially anyway!)

hello mate,

well when i was doing my stalkers course there, i believe the instructor said that they are using traps in certain places, but he also said that the financial cost of operating a wild boar entrapment system is quite high as well, hence it carries with it it's own problematic.
Especially if the reason for the boars venturing into city center to begin with, is in part that the city admins either lack the funds, or misspend the ones that they have so badly, that waste desposal isnt dealt with properly and the boars come into the city centers to try and feed on it.

And you're right about the "official" part i think, or you likely soon might be. At least a lot of the local hunters and farmers in the alps that i used to hunt with wernt mightily impressed with how the growing wolf population is being dealt with by the legislators at current. And if a lot of the "men on the ground" continue to not feel heard or understood, well they might turn desperate, and desperate people tend to at times break the rules.

Another odd thing is why italy do not develop some sort of hunting turism industry, as they actually do not have enough hunters to for example fully control the wild boar population. But at current it is almost impossible for foreign hunters to come hunt the public huntable land. And that is approx 97 percent of the entire huntable land surface of italy i believe, or something close to that, as the Italian state as an outset control the rights to harvest wild animals throughout italy, even on privately owned land.
I for example, as an eu citizen, holding a valid hunting license from Denmark, had to take my hunting licenses from scratch in italy, if i wanted to enter the normal hunters circulation there. As i understood it at the time, it is the only eu country who will force you to do that.

 

[ofbiro]

I am not a lawyer but I am sure that any European Community citizen is allowed to hunt in Italy, provided that he/she has a valid hunting licence issued within the Community. I am sorry to add that British stalkers/shooters don't have that chance because a) Britain doesn't belong anymore to the EC
b) as far as I know, hunting licences do not exist in UK Please correct me if I am wrong.
I apologize with Scipius for contradicting him on the legal matter, while I agree with him as far as the limited development of the hunting industry is concerned.
Nevertheless, a few estates the so called AFVs (Azienda Faunistico-Venatoria) owning or renting large areas offer hunting/shooting e.g. driven pheasants, deer (roed red fallow) stalking and boar shooting (both, driven and from the high seat).
If really interested, check sites like Montefeltro (owned by Beretta) or G&G Hunting Services just to name a couple.

 

[Scipio]

I am not a lawyer but I am sure that any European Community citizen is allowed to hunt in Italy, provided that he/she has a valid hunting licence issued within the Community. I am sorry to add that British stalkers/shooters don't have that chance because a) Britain doesn't belong anymore to the EC
b) as far as I know, hunting licences do not exist in UK Please correct me if I am wrong.
I apologize with Scipius for contradicting him on the legal matter, while I agree with him as far as the limited development of the hunting industry is concerned.
Nevertheless, a few estates the so called AFVs (Azienda Faunistico-Venatoria) owning or renting large areas offer hunting/shooting e.g. driven pheasants, deer (roed red fallow) stalking and boar shooting (both, driven and from the high seat).
If really interested, check sites like Montefeltro (owned by Beretta) or G&G Hunting Services just to name a couple.

Hello buddy, no need to apologize, but i dont think you're contradicting me really.
A foreign hunter with a recognized foreign hunters license can via special invites, or on private hunting territories, hunt in italy. An AFV is exactly that, a private game and hunting business, as the name also suggests.

However to enter the common public hunting system in italy, which governs by far more of italys huntable lands, and get tags/animals assigned for you, you need to join the famous ATCs in most parts of the country. And to join an ATC i am quite sure that you do need to be an italian licensed hunter and i think have italian residency too.
And unlike most other eu countries, italy wont just hand you an italian hunters license because you can show them an EU equivalent.
At least this seemed the case 4-5 years ago.

 

[ofbiro]

Hi Scipius, I agree with you about the need of the italian licence within the public hunting system. However, with that system a new hunter is considered a competitor not a colleague. Unless the foreigner has solid reliable local friends I advice against trying to hunt. Better to stick to AFVs.

 

[Scipio]

Hi Scipius, I agree with you about the need of the italian licence within the public hunting system. However, with that system a new hunter is considered a competitor not a colleague. Unless the foreigner has solid reliable local friends I advice against trying to hunt. Better to stick to AFVs.

Hello buddy,

Well If we are talking foreigners who are not planning to live and take residency in italy, and who therefor will not have the time to go through all the needed italian hunters stalkers licenses, i think the private way is the only real solution anyways.
But yes i agree, if i was to council a non italian resident and hunter about hunting in italy, i'd council going the private route for sure, as you suggested.

 

[ofbiro]

Hi Scipius,

Unfortunately, although everybody has the right to hunt on private ground (provided he/she has a permit) local hunters are rather jealous of their ground. Very often, goodmanners and correct behaviour are not enough to prevent having the car vandalised. Even the hunter living in the next county is considered an enemy. Moreover, there are limitations for hunters living in the Alps regions (e.g.: myself). Outside their region they can hunt on private "reserves".
Better we change subjects before the other forumists get bored and nervous.

 

[Scipio]

Hello again ofbiro, yep, let's move on. I think our fellow hunters on here have by now also understood, that if they want to shoot some Italian boar, going via a private hunting estate is the easiest way