Ivermectin, for the interested

[Freeforester]

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Redders]

Are u wondering if humans can use ivermectin

 

[Fair Hill]

Are u wondering if humans can use ivermectin

No he's not, he's convinced of it and he wants to convince you.

He read it on the internet.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Not convinced about it yet

DEFINE_ME

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Mungo]

Not convinced about it yet

DEFINE_ME

Cheers

Bruce

Now that is very much worth paying attention to.

Small sample size, but done properly, using a known conservative statistical test (as in one that is not given to false positives).

There might be something in it after all!

 

[landkeeper]

Well its been used for years now to kill the internal.parasite that in humans causes river blindness (if i remember correctly ) as well as other harmfull.internal psrasites

 

[xavierdoc]

Not convinced about it yet

DEFINE_ME

Cheers

Bruce

Agree.

It's good to see a properly constructed pilot study, which acknowledges its limitations and is sensible in its carefully-worded conclusion (avoiding the Internet muppets and lazy journos picking "soundbite" headliner phrases!) It even has a (limited) power calculation!

Unfortunately, unless a reader is used to reading and critically appraising scientific research, they will get bogged-down in the vital detail, so give-up and carry on reading the easy to understand (but inaccurate or misleading) material that is do often regurgitated as "proof" or "evidence".

Here's hoping the pilot leads to a full-scale, well-designed trial.

 

[zambezi]

Well its been used for years now to kill the internal.parasite that in humans causes river blindness (if i remember correctly ) as well as other harmfull.internal psrasites

Correct.

3.7 billion doses administered to humans since the mid-80s for parasitic treatment and prophylaxis.

It is on the W.H.O. list of essential medicines

 

[xavierdoc]

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Review article (not novel research) Published 2011.

 

[BryanDC]

It's starting to sound like Jude Law in "Contagion" with Forsythia. It seems to be touted by a few doctors but generally there doesn't seem to be any evidence for it's use. I think I will wait for the medical experts opinions

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Well its been used for years now to kill the internal.parasite that in humans causes river blindness (if i remember correctly ) as well as other harmfull.internal psrasites

Bilharzia or Shistosomias they give you Praziquantel. Kills the adult worms.

 

[Freeforester]

Review article (not novel research) Published 2011.

Agreed, it was posted as a background paper for anyone thinking 'what is he on about, and just what is Ivermectin?'; there is very little that is new under the sun, I believe that the background research into the ideas/theories for and development of the vaccines for coronaviruses now being rolled out are similarly not the work of the last week or month, but have been in development for years.

 

[Freeforester]

It's starting to sound like Jude Law in "Contagion" with Forsythia. It seems to be touted by a few doctors but generally there doesn't seem to be any evidence for it's use. I think I will wait for the medical experts opinions

Ha ha! Keep watching your films mate, and when/if you ever find time during the interval to come up with a 'medical expert' that can better explain the mechanism by which Ivermectin prevents the virus from invading the body cells than can Professor Marik, Dr Carvallo, Dr Gustavo Chang, the various members of the FLCCC alliance, Dr Mobeen Syed etc do be sure to let them, as well as the rest of us know! Better still, take the time to watch or re-watch the latter's explanation in the more or less 'Ivermectin for film buffs' and help try to educate yourself in something that might actually be of help for mankind. Here's the 'channel', you can even get your ice cream and popcorn before he gets going in earnest roughly 7:40 in:

 

[Freeforester]

Not convinced about it yet

DEFINE_ME

Cheers

Bruce

Hi Bruce, Prof. Thomas Borody was the man who gave the first clue (the in vitro study mentioned, using a heavy dose of ivermectin to kill the virus); here he is expanding a bit on what he has found in the interim:

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[BryanDC]

Ha ha! Keep watching your films mate, and when/if you ever find time during the interval to come up with a 'medical expert' that can better explain the mechanism by which Ivermectin prevents the virus from invading the body cells than can Professor Marik, Dr Carvallo, Dr Gustavo Chang, the various members of the FLCCC alliance, Dr Mobeen Syed etc do be sure to let them, as well as the rest of us know! Better still, take the time to watch or re-watch the latter's explanation in the more or less 'Ivermectin for film buffs' and help try to educate yourself in something that might actually be of help for mankind. Here's the 'channel', you can even get your ice cream and popcorn before he gets going in earnest roughly 7:40 in:

So why, if it works and it is cheap, is there not widespread use of it?

 

[Freeforester]

Fordi det er ikke penge i! Prøv se video I #15, tak.

No big money prize - no interest.

As for 'widespread use', you must surely be discounting the greater part of the developing world, where it is indeed in widespread use, and eg Bulgaria, Greece and Macedonia, who cannot afford the vaccine costs in the same way, and so have started to use Ivermectin. Similarly, in Belize, Peru, Colombia and Argentina, as well as many other countries in both South America and sub Saharan Africa, parts of India, etc.

Soon Fergal Keane will be exhorting the Africans to do a live aid for the Europeans, lol!

 

[BryanDC]

Sorry that doesn't make sense.

So governments around the world would rather spend incredible amounts of money on lockdowns and the consequences of lockdowns, than buy a cheap drug that could stop it. Again that doesn't make sense. If the experts in the UK decided that it was safe and advisable to offer this, don't you think the goverment would jump at the chance. Or are they all in on the conspiracy to make money from vaccines. I can see the drug companies holding back as they won't make money out of it, but they don't (or shouldn't) control the drug agencies around the world and therefore it is up to the drug agencies to approve it or not. If approved they then order it. or is that too simplistic. Again. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Freeforester]

Er, you are a bit naive about how this thing works. For sure it has you baffled, but simply look at it from the perspective of those countries which cannot afford the vaccine bill - there's rather a lot of people being saved, in many parts of the world, who have no access to the vaccine. How are they doing this, whole city blocks being treated, and not a case of Covid in them as a result?

The implications of the suggestion that our goverments are handling things badly is not comfortable for one to arrive at, but look around you, then look beyond the shores of Europe, and see how things are being managed elsewhere?

 

[Fair Hill]

Sorry that doesn't make sense.

So governments around the world would rather spend incredible amounts of money on lockdowns and the consequences of lockdowns, than buy a cheap drug that could stop it. Again that doesn't make sense. If the experts in the UK decided that it was safe and advisable to offer this, don't you think the goverment would jump at the chance. Or are they all in on the conspiracy to make money from vaccines. I can see the drug companies holding back as they won't make money out of it, but they don't (or shouldn't) control the drug agencies around the world and therefore it is up to the drug agencies to approve it or not. If approved they then order it. or is that too simplistic. Again. It doesn't make sense.

You'll get used to it with that particular poster and his conjecture.

 

[Freeforester]

Still playing the man, and not the ball eh? Glad to see you have an interest.

The horse arrives at the trough, courtesy of its handler, but it is the horse which decides whether it drinks or dies of thirst.

Cheers!