@theroedeerguy
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Cracking photo thanks for the explanation, now I appreciate why your silhouette looks so realistic and to scale.
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Looks great!! That’s a fancier one than mine…they are clever little things and as you say easy to use.
Thanks, works a treat and so so simple to create a basic label!
DevonRifle
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Is the date produced the date shot or the date butchered? The best before date doesn’t seem very long afterwards. Are the dates set by an official method? Sorry if my questions seem ignorant, I’m genuinely interested as I don’t know how to come up with these dates for my venison.
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So:
Date Produced = Date shot
Date Packaged = Date butchered and vac-packed
Date Best Before Fresh = Date packaged + 7 days (frozen then if not sold)
Date Best Frozen = Date packed + 9 months
Use by Date = Date packed + 15 months
When I first set up as a Food Business I did a lot of digging into the life of venison products on the web and FSA sites. There is a FSA paper (2017 - Chris Roswell) that supports up to 10 days storage once vac-packed and stored at less than 8 deg C. I went with a conservative 7 days as that's what I (and importantly my customers) are used to seeing on commercial Tescos/Sainsburys/supermarket meat of your choice and I also store at 2 deg C, so safer overall IMHO. FSA require that "food labels must be marked with either a Best Before or Use by date so that it is clear how long foods can be kept and how to store them". There's a whole host of regulations but all are focussed on beef, pork, lamb and poultry.
In my digging I discovered that New Zealand had done a lot of research in flavour deterioration of frozen venison and a paper I cannot now find supported a maximum life of 4 years! If you Google frozen venison life you will come up with many recommendations, most of which support a freezer life of 9-12 months. These are typical examples:
How Long Does Deer Meat Last in The Freezer?
If you've just bagged yourself a deer, the next step is to figure out how to store it. Deer meat can last in the freezer for quite some time if it's stored properly, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind. In this blog post, we'll discuss safe deer meat storage practices and give...
Proper Handling and Cooking of Venison | Minnesota Department of Agriculture
Venison is an excellent source of protein.
A research paper I quite life is "The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.) by Tomasz Daszkiewicz , Dorota Kubiak, and Agata Panfil and published in Journal of Food Quality Volume 2018, Article ID 4691542 supports 9-12 months and is highly relevant to me as the vast majority of animals I take are roe. The paper can be found here:
The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.)
The objective of this study was to determine the quality of meat (<i>Longissimus thoracis et lumborum</i>) from 10 female roe deer (<i>Capreolus capreolus</i> L.), which was vacuum-packaged, frozen-stored (−26°C) for 6, 10, and 12 months, and compared with fresh, nonfrozen meat. Roe deer (aged 3...
Given all freezer lives are recommendations, I went with a Best Before Date of 9 months based on flavour retention and a Use by Date of 15 months based on my perception of where the meat remains edible and has not lost too much of its unique taste characteristics. I could have gone longer, but I want my customers to keep coming back so I have erred on the side of caution by going with a max of 15 months. I could have gone with 12 months but my personal feeling is that is being too wasteful of a quality food and even the FSA is heavily promoting measures to reduce food wastage. Having run this logic through my local EHO he was entirely happy and I received a 5* assessment.
Standby for incoming
So:
Date Produced = Date shot
Date Packaged = Date butchered and vac-packed
Date Best Before Fresh = Date packaged + 7 days (frozen then if not sold)
Date Best Frozen = Date packed + 9 months
Use by Date = Date packed + 15 months
When I first set up as a Food Business I did a lot of digging into the life of venison products on the web and FSA sites. There is a FSA paper (2017 - Chris Roswell) that supports up to 10 days storage once vac-packed and stored at less than 8 deg C. I went with a conservative 7 days as that's what I (and importantly my customers) are used to seeing on commercial Tescos/Sainsburys/supermarket meat of your choice and I also store at 2 deg C, so safer overall IMHO. FSA require that "food labels must be marked with either a Best Before or Use by date so that it is clear how long foods can be kept and how to store them". There's a whole host of regulations but all are focussed on beef, pork, lamb and poultry.
In my digging I discovered that New Zealand had done a lot of research in flavour deterioration of frozen venison and a paper I cannot now find supported a maximum life of 4 years! If you Google frozen venison life you will come up with many recommendations, most of which support a freezer life of 9-12 months. These are typical examples:
How Long Does Deer Meat Last in The Freezer?
If you've just bagged yourself a deer, the next step is to figure out how to store it. Deer meat can last in the freezer for quite some time if it's stored properly, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind. In this blog post, we'll discuss safe deer meat storage practices and give...hunterswholesale.net
Proper Handling and Cooking of Venison | Minnesota Department of Agriculture
Venison is an excellent source of protein.www.mda.state.mn.us
A research paper I quite life is "The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.) by Tomasz Daszkiewicz , Dorota Kubiak, and Agata Panfil and published in Journal of Food Quality Volume 2018, Article ID 4691542 supports 9-12 months and is highly relevant to me as the vast majority of animals I take are roe. The paper can be found here:
The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.)
The objective of this study was to determine the quality of meat (<i>Longissimus thoracis et lumborum</i>) from 10 female roe deer (<i>Capreolus capreolus</i> L.), which was vacuum-packaged, frozen-stored (−26°C) for 6, 10, and 12 months, and compared with fresh, nonfrozen meat. Roe deer (aged 3...doi.org
Given all freezer lives are recommendations, I went with a Best Before Date of 9 months based on flavour retention and a Use by Date of 15 months based on my perception of where the meat remains edible and has not lost too much of its unique taste characteristics. I could have gone longer, but I want my customers to keep coming back so I have erred on the side of caution by going with a max of 15 months. I could have gone with 12 months but my personal feeling is that is being too wasteful of a quality food and even the FSA is heavily promoting measures to reduce food wastage. Having run this logic through my local EHO he was entirely happy and I received a 5* assessment.
A very useful post - thank you
I should add that this commercial New Zealand venison seller promotes a freezer life of 36 months. There's a balance between wasting too much stock if customer buying is not keeping up with your production if choosing a short life versus the customer digging it out of the frozen depths of their overloaded chest freezer and it leaving a bad taste in the mouths metaphorically and physically if you support a frozen life in excess of 2 years (IMHO).Standby for incoming
So:
Date Produced = Date shot
Date Packaged = Date butchered and vac-packed
Date Best Before Fresh = Date packaged + 7 days (frozen then if not sold)
Date Best Frozen = Date packed + 9 months
Use by Date = Date packed + 15 months
When I first set up as a Food Business I did a lot of digging into the life of venison products on the web and FSA sites. There is a FSA paper (2017 - Chris Roswell) that supports up to 10 days storage once vac-packed and stored at less than 8 deg C. I went with a conservative 7 days as that's what I (and importantly my customers) are used to seeing on commercial Tescos/Sainsburys/supermarket meat of your choice and I also store at 2 deg C, so safer overall IMHO. FSA require that "food labels must be marked with either a Best Before or Use by date so that it is clear how long foods can be kept and how to store them". There's a whole host of regulations but all are focussed on beef, pork, lamb and poultry.
In my digging I discovered that New Zealand had done a lot of research in flavour deterioration of frozen venison and a paper I cannot now find supported a maximum life of 4 years! If you Google frozen venison life you will come up with many recommendations, most of which support a freezer life of 9-12 months. These are typical examples:
How Long Does Deer Meat Last in The Freezer?
If you've just bagged yourself a deer, the next step is to figure out how to store it. Deer meat can last in the freezer for quite some time if it's stored properly, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind. In this blog post, we'll discuss safe deer meat storage practices and give...Proper Handling and Cooking of Venison | Minnesota Department of Agriculture
Venison is an excellent source of protein.
A research paper I quite life is "The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.) by Tomasz Daszkiewicz , Dorota Kubiak, and Agata Panfil and published in Journal of Food Quality Volume 2018, Article ID 4691542 supports 9-12 months and is highly relevant to me as the vast majority of animals I take are roe. The paper can be found here:
The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.)
The objective of this study was to determine the quality of meat (<i>Longissimus thoracis et lumborum</i>) from 10 female roe deer (<i>Capreolus capreolus</i> L.), which was vacuum-packaged, frozen-stored (−26°C) for 6, 10, and 12 months, and compared with fresh, nonfrozen meat. Roe deer (aged 3...
Given all freezer lives are recommendations, I went with a Best Before Date of 9 months based on flavour retention and a Use by Date of 15 months based on my perception of where the meat remains edible and has not lost too much of its unique taste characteristics. I could have gone longer, but I want my customers to keep coming back so I have erred on the side of caution by going with a max of 15 months. I could have gone with 12 months but my personal feeling is that is being too wasteful of a quality food and even the FSA is heavily promoting measures to reduce food wastage. Having run this logic through my local EHO he was entirely happy and I received a 5* assessment.
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DevonRifle
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Thank you so much for taking the time to answer so thoroughly. That really is very helpful.Standby for incoming
So:
Date Produced = Date shot
Date Packaged = Date butchered and vac-packed
Date Best Before Fresh = Date packaged + 7 days (frozen then if not sold)
Date Best Frozen = Date packed + 9 months
Use by Date = Date packed + 15 months
When I first set up as a Food Business I did a lot of digging into the life of venison products on the web and FSA sites. There is a FSA paper (2017 - Chris Roswell) that supports up to 10 days storage once vac-packed and stored at less than 8 deg C. I went with a conservative 7 days as that's what I (and importantly my customers) are used to seeing on commercial Tescos/Sainsburys/supermarket meat of your choice and I also store at 2 deg C, so safer overall IMHO. FSA require that "food labels must be marked with either a Best Before or Use by date so that it is clear how long foods can be kept and how to store them". There's a whole host of regulations but all are focussed on beef, pork, lamb and poultry.
In my digging I discovered that New Zealand had done a lot of research in flavour deterioration of frozen venison and a paper I cannot now find supported a maximum life of 4 years! If you Google frozen venison life you will come up with many recommendations, most of which support a freezer life of 9-12 months. These are typical examples:
How Long Does Deer Meat Last in The Freezer?
If you've just bagged yourself a deer, the next step is to figure out how to store it. Deer meat can last in the freezer for quite some time if it's stored properly, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind. In this blog post, we'll discuss safe deer meat storage practices and give...Proper Handling and Cooking of Venison | Minnesota Department of Agriculture
Venison is an excellent source of protein.
A research paper I quite life is "The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.) by Tomasz Daszkiewicz , Dorota Kubiak, and Agata Panfil and published in Journal of Food Quality Volume 2018, Article ID 4691542 supports 9-12 months and is highly relevant to me as the vast majority of animals I take are roe. The paper can be found here:
The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.)
The objective of this study was to determine the quality of meat (<i>Longissimus thoracis et lumborum</i>) from 10 female roe deer (<i>Capreolus capreolus</i> L.), which was vacuum-packaged, frozen-stored (−26°C) for 6, 10, and 12 months, and compared with fresh, nonfrozen meat. Roe deer (aged 3...
Given all freezer lives are recommendations, I went with a Best Before Date of 9 months based on flavour retention and a Use by Date of 15 months based on my perception of where the meat remains edible and has not lost too much of its unique taste characteristics. I could have gone longer, but I want my customers to keep coming back so I have erred on the side of caution by going with a max of 15 months. I could have gone with 12 months but my personal feeling is that is being too wasteful of a quality food and even the FSA is heavily promoting measures to reduce food wastage. Having run this logic through my local EHO he was entirely happy and I received a 5* assessment.
Really useful post - Thankyou!Standby for incoming
So:
Date Produced = Date shot
Date Packaged = Date butchered and vac-packed
Date Best Before Fresh = Date packaged + 7 days (frozen then if not sold)
Date Best Frozen = Date packed + 9 months
Use by Date = Date packed + 15 months
When I first set up as a Food Business I did a lot of digging into the life of venison products on the web and FSA sites. There is a FSA paper (2017 - Chris Roswell) that supports up to 10 days storage once vac-packed and stored at less than 8 deg C. I went with a conservative 7 days as that's what I (and importantly my customers) are used to seeing on commercial Tescos/Sainsburys/supermarket meat of your choice and I also store at 2 deg C, so safer overall IMHO. FSA require that "food labels must be marked with either a Best Before or Use by date so that it is clear how long foods can be kept and how to store them". There's a whole host of regulations but all are focussed on beef, pork, lamb and poultry.
In my digging I discovered that New Zealand had done a lot of research in flavour deterioration of frozen venison and a paper I cannot now find supported a maximum life of 4 years! If you Google frozen venison life you will come up with many recommendations, most of which support a freezer life of 9-12 months. These are typical examples:
How Long Does Deer Meat Last in The Freezer?
If you've just bagged yourself a deer, the next step is to figure out how to store it. Deer meat can last in the freezer for quite some time if it's stored properly, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind. In this blog post, we'll discuss safe deer meat storage practices and give...Proper Handling and Cooking of Venison | Minnesota Department of Agriculture
Venison is an excellent source of protein.
A research paper I quite life is "The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.) by Tomasz Daszkiewicz , Dorota Kubiak, and Agata Panfil and published in Journal of Food Quality Volume 2018, Article ID 4691542 supports 9-12 months and is highly relevant to me as the vast majority of animals I take are roe. The paper can be found here:
The Effect of Long-Term Frozen Storage on the Quality of Meat (Longissimus thoracis et Lumborum) from Female Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus L.)
The objective of this study was to determine the quality of meat (<i>Longissimus thoracis et lumborum</i>) from 10 female roe deer (<i>Capreolus capreolus</i> L.), which was vacuum-packaged, frozen-stored (−26°C) for 6, 10, and 12 months, and compared with fresh, nonfrozen meat. Roe deer (aged 3...
Given all freezer lives are recommendations, I went with a Best Before Date of 9 months based on flavour retention and a Use by Date of 15 months based on my perception of where the meat remains edible and has not lost too much of its unique taste characteristics. I could have gone longer, but I want my customers to keep coming back so I have erred on the side of caution by going with a max of 15 months. I could have gone with 12 months but my personal feeling is that is being too wasteful of a quality food and even the FSA is heavily promoting measures to reduce food wastage. Having run this logic through my local EHO he was entirely happy and I received a 5* assessment.
Brother QL-800 is a great piece of kit. I use it for labelling all sorts.
The cheaper aftermarket labels can be hit and miss with adhering to plastics (will stick but can be easily peeled off), but the Brother branded ones are good on LDPE.
The P-touch software that comes with it makes it easy to set up a template and then have things like BBE calculate automatically (e.g. today's date plus 14 days or whatever suits.)
The cheaper aftermarket labels can be hit and miss with adhering to plastics (will stick but can be easily peeled off), but the Brother branded ones are good on LDPE.
The P-touch software that comes with it makes it easy to set up a template and then have things like BBE calculate automatically (e.g. today's date plus 14 days or whatever suits.)
roaring_stag
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For those that may be interested, I have a Salter Bracknell scale which i am putting up for sale shortly - keep an eye on the classifieds.
Label printing, programmable, accurate scales etc etc
Label printing, programmable, accurate scales etc etc
Erik Hamburger
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Your carcass tag should have all the tracing information. Your marketing label should refer to the tag no. - that's all you need. I get my Tags from the BDS online shop, and my sticky freezer-proof labels I designed using the online templates from Vista Print. If you p.m. me with your email I will send you a picture.
Thats what I do too, although I now print my hunter declaration tag using the Brother printer, and attach it to the carcass by sticking the label onto a regular string-powered parcel tag.
The last APHA vet who visited liked it so much he asked if he could take a photo of it
Great subject guys, thanks for sharing
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