Lightweight moderator

[JockStalk]

I’ve never seen anything better for noise suppression than the US made mods they used in the Man from U.N.C.L.E.

Amazing performance, even on full auto. Just a whisper quiet fut-fut, fut.

Never seen them here so I guess the export restrictions are still in place.

 

[Utectok]

I’ve been happy with the lightest f&d UTS in 6.5 flavour. Used it on range and for stalking seems grand.

 

[Shaun Goss]

I’ve been happy with the lightest f&d UTS in 6.5 flavour. Used it on range and for stalking seems grand.

The 131? Very tempted as it’s so small and light but is it still genuinely effective?

 

[C&K Suffolk]

I use DPT but also had a an RCC Hunter which was very light and good mod

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

Moderators come in two forms
Consumable light ones or those made predominantly from Steel/Titanium

How fast you consume them depends on you
Range use, stripping and cleaning, overbore/magnums, running out of spec etc etc will all accelerate the wear.

There is no free lunch to weight vs longevity vs sound attenuation

As for US mods
Apart from being predominantly eye watering prices compared to NZ/Euro offerings they are often designed for use on Semi Auto platforms, the designs I have seen first hand have much larger bore to calibre tolerances.
That is the first thing that gives away sound attenuation performance.

(I suspect) This stems from the factory threads on many US made rifles that are still not undercut and initially designed for clamp style muzzle brakes.
Doesn’t allow for concentric alignment of a moderator bores, requiring larger bore for any given calibre.

Mods are already creeping into rifle price brackets
I see no reason to accelerate that.

High time we did another moderator review
Will see what we can do

 

[KimE]

Why doesn’t someone link up with the Americans and start importing there suppressors? We would have a lot more choice…

We dont have need for the same type of suppressors US have developed more sturdy compressors for automatic weapons and the 200$ tax stamp on supressors make americans need a supressor to last as long or longer than they need the rifle to last. With the new regulation in UK/Sweden you can go for light weight, not lasting as long and less expensive no need for a permit.

 

[SteveW]

At the Birmingham shooting show looked at a Mod from Norway called Svemko imported by Edgar Brothers
Look a nice product and very light

 

[Eric the Red]

Why doesn’t someone link up with the Americans and start importing there suppressors? We would have a lot more choice…

ITAR and import regs tends to make it non-viable. In the same way as there are almost no European mods in the US.

 

[Eric the Red]

Titanium doesn't always mean light. And all depends on the quality of the build and the overall sound suppression capability. There has been no mention of the Lawrence mods or the Wildcat Elite Ti yet in this thread which I am surprised about - but they are not the lightest. They are way lighter than steel counterparts. As Ed has said - superlight mods tend to be more consumable items and less able on sound suppression - so you will need to decide which is the most important metric - sound suppression, size (this includes reflex or end-can style), weight, life expectancy, cost, - and work out the compromises on the others - and that will tell you which moderator you will end up with from what is available.

 

[bluesako]

does anyone remember vaimco mods from years ago in my opinion they were utter sh*te. bs

 

[20-250]

does anyone remember vaimco mods from years ago in my opinion they were utter sh*te. bs

Yes, I had one. But that's before even the T8 was available. It was better than nothing.

 

[spanj]

It generally does, but the top page of results doesn't show me any threads focused on lightweight moderators. What did I miss?

Dpt over the barrel with magnum baffle

 

[spanj]

I've got a DPT on my 6.5. I'll compare the two. I've no complaints about the DPT, but I prefer the looks of the F&D.

Looks….. really ?

 

[Utectok]

The 131? Very tempted as it’s so small and light but is it still genuinely effective?

With my 6.5x55 the performance is really very impressive better than some much larger mods I’ve used in the past

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

Titanium doesn't always mean light. And all depends on the quality of the build and the overall sound suppression capability. There has been no mention of the Lawrence mods or the Wildcat Elite Ti yet in this thread which I am surprised about - but they are not the lightest. They are way lighter than steel counterparts. As Ed has said - superlight mods tend to be more consumable items and less able on sound suppression - so you will need to decide which is the most important metric - sound suppression, size (this includes reflex or end-can style), weight, life expectancy, cost, - and work out the compromises on the others - and that will tell you which moderator you will end up with from what is available.

The Lawrence mods we have had are absurdly noisy under test.
Have several here customers have jait handed in
One held together with epoxy inside

The Wildcat one looks well made
Punchy money

As above
Titanium outer shells do not make particularly quiet mods
The metal has a shrill, tinny ring to it
Its also quite brittle when out through hear cycles

 

[Jagged77]

Must admit that for stalking I value weight over noise reduction - as long as a single shot is below my pain threshold and adds a degree of recoil reduction I’m happy. My lightest mod is an ASE SL5i - think I’m due an upgrade.

Like the look of A-Tec or the DPT with removable modules.

 

[Jelen]

One held together with epoxy inside

How could you tell?

 

[webley701]

Looks….. really ?

Yes really - for those people who may prefer not to totally spoil the appearance of an elegant rifle with a utilitarian ‘can’ when there’s more appropriate looking & just as effective alternatives.

 

[Essexsussex]

Atec is pretty light and does the job

 

[Mr. Gain]

Looks….. really ?

YMMD
Or, in old money: de gustibus non est disputandum