Load for 30.06 150gn

Dawnraider

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I've just got some Speer 150gn BTSP 2022 to try in my 30.06,i want to use H4895 as i've got plenty of that,according to my Speer manual start load is is 42gn max 46gn,according to Hodgdon web site start 46gn max 51gn only difference being Hodgdon are using a 150gn nosler.Left me a bit confused as to where to start,i'm using Lapua brass and BR2 primers,anybody use the same give me an idea where to start my instinct is to start at 46gn.
Neil.
 
I've just got some Speer 150gn BTSP 2022 to try in my 30.06,i want to use H4895 as i've got plenty of that,according to my Speer manual start load is is 42gn max 46gn,according to Hodgdon web site start 46gn max 51gn only difference being Hodgdon are using a 150gn nosler.Left me a bit confused as to where to start,i'm using Lapua brass and BR2 primers,anybody use the same give me an idea where to start my instinct is to start at 46gn.
Neil.

My match load for 30-06 was a 150 with 44 grains of H-4895. I would start there and work up. There is no danger in loading a little light with 4895 as it is perfectly safe to load to 66% of max loads.(For this reason it is a favorite for producing reduced loads) A difference in brass and primers from what the manufacturer used can make a large difference in pressure. Be safe and be conservative. ~Muir
 
Thanks Muir,if i hadn't looked in the Speer manual and just gone on the Hodgdon data i'd of gone straight in at 46gn just worried my self a bit when i saw Speers max was 46gn,had a look on Steves pages and they say 42-51 for H4895 so i'll try 44gn as a start.
ATB Neil.
 
After a few earlier recommendations from members of this site I am using 50gns of H4895 and a Federal mag primer to push a 150gn Sierra Game king with excellent results and no problems with pressure - so far
I use 46gns to push a 180gn bullet.
 
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Thanks Eddy i'll load a few up from 44gn and see how they go,any idea of the velocity your getting with that load,i've been using 165 nosler bt over 56gn of H4350 which has been good just wanted to try the 150s and use up some of the H4895 that i had for .243.
Cheers Neil.
 
Thanks Eddy i'll load a few up from 44gn and see how they go,any idea of the velocity your getting with that load,some of the H4895 that i had for .243.
Cheers Neil.
Sorry, no idea. I have a Chrono, bought when it was all the rage but it takes too long to set up so haven't used it for at least five years but lent it out a couple of times!!!
 
Im using 51.5gn of IMR4895 with 155gn Amax R93 19in barrel and getting 2770fps ave, .3moa at 100y no pressure signs.
 
Well against my better judgement i went straight in at 46gns and tried a few today and they were well under stoked completely sooted full length of the case and back past the head,think i'll have ago at 50gn now.:shock:
Neil.
 
I tried a few today loaded at 50gn and they are still looking under pressured,only sooted back to the base of the shoulder this time and no primer flattening at all,at least i've found what appears to be my starting point to work from.:shock:
 
I tried a few today loaded at 50gn and they are still looking under pressured,only sooted back to the base of the shoulder this time and no primer flattening at all,at least i've found what appears to be my starting point to work from.:shock:


I have several loads for different things, the '06 is very versatile.

150 grain Speer btsp over 51.3 gr H4895 in Norma cases for about 2850 fps, this is a good load for all 6 species of deer. I have used it on everything from a big fallowbuck to a muntjac the size of a hare and found the killing power and meat damage perfectly acceptable in all cases. In my rifle the OAL for optimum accuracy is 3.180", this is rather short and makes for an occasionally flattened primer in the third and fourth shots of a rapid string. The problem I have is that 51.3 gr is an honest 1/2" to 3/4" load in the rifle whereas any less than 51 grains opens the groups right out. I think the problem is the lack of charge density using the relatively fast powder in the '06 case.

150 gr speer btsp over 62 gr of H4350 in Norma cases for about 3000 fps. The above on steroids, for when you have reach out and touch something. Lower pressure than the above load however though the velocity is rather hard on the Speers below say a hundred or so yards. If I am sitting up specifically for fox I tend to take this load as it lessens the carcass disposal problems significantly. 3.180" Oal

155 gr A-max over 51 gr of H4895 in Privi cases. A nice soft 1/2" load in my rifle for about 2750 fps. Shoot it all day at bisley out to 600 yards. 3.400" OAL

165 gr partition over 58.5 gr of H4350 in norma cases for about 2800 fps, not shot any game with it yet but it is meant for Africa and the boar.

180 gr Hornady interlock over 60.5 grs of H4831 for about 2700 fps, good for deer they just fall over with a smallish exithole to boot. Unless you hit bone. 3.200" OAL

168 gr Barnes TSX over 59 gr of H4350 for 2900 fps, newly developed plainsgame load for Africa this summer. Shot a .2" group on the weekend, witnessed by a member here, with the 59 gr charge at 3.250" OAL. May make all other hunting loads redundant as on testing the 150 grain loads left nothing but shards of lead and copper in the soft mud backstop, the 180 gr Hornadys mushroomed out to 3/4" across and retained between 80-130 gr of weight whilst the Barnes TSXs blew chunks of mud into the air and could not be recovered after digging about a foot into the backstop!
 
Thanks Grandhubert most enlightning,i've loaded some more today at 51 gn ,i'll see how i get on with those,good to hear the meat damage is ok with the speers that's what i was hoping.
ATB Neil.
 
Hi Neil, a pleasure mate. When I started loading for the 06 a couple of years ago nobody seemed to have much data for it in the UK, I have noticed that more and more people seem to be shooting it recently.

On your choice of powder I use exactly the same the bullet and powder as you and 51.3 is in all fairness too hot for my particular rifle. I use norma cases which have slightly more capacity, in theory providing for slightly less pressure for a given charge, than some Remington ones I have tried. If you are still getting soot on the shoulder at what is the book maximum load perhaps your rifle just has a wide neck, keep an eye out for pressure signs.

Often when I think I have found a load I will shoot the same case again and again until the primer pocket gets too loose for comfort. You can do this at the range with a hand press, neck dies and pre-weighed charges. A load that shoots the pockets loose after only 5-10 loads is too hot in my book.

The Speers can be a little soft, on the manufacturers website they note that the boat-tailed bullets are a little softer than the flat-based hot-cor design. This last is very similar in performance to the sierra gameking which is pretty much the benchmark for reasonably priced 150 gr softs.

My max load for deer with them is pushing them at 2850 fps (the 51.3 gr load ), this is as fast as I would want to go with this bullet on big game as the 3000 fps load is almost reliably explosive...:shock:
I am beginning to think that shooting the lighter bullets fast in the 06 demands premium bullets.

Shoot a few deer with it and see how you get on but but remember that my loads may not be safe for your rifle and work your way up. If you are not getting the results you need with one powder then try another. H4350 is the most versatile powder for the 06 and usually shows the best speed together with decent case fill.

Many eventually settle on a 165 grain bullet of description for the 06 and declare load development at end. :-D

Regards,

Amir
 
Thanks again Amir,up until now i have been using 165gn nosler bt over 56gn of h4350 and have found it very good for accuracy and very effective on the roes i've shot with it not much meat damage,the cases have been fine with this load no sooting past the neck only slight flattening of the primer.I was wondering if the h4895 was a bit on the quick side and wether i'd have been better of just sticking to to the h4350,i'm just having a play around with things at the minute to see what the best is going to be,i'll try loading some with the 4350 if i dont get normal cases with the 51gn load,i definatley don't want them going to fast.
Cheers Neil.
 
I use H4350 too with the following loads:

150gr Speer SPBT, 58.4gr H4350, Lapua case, federal primer
180gr Speer SPBT, 56.0gr H4350, Lapua case, federal primer

Not had the chance to chrono them yet but get about 1" groups at 100 yds

Alex
 
Thanks Alex,how have you found them for meat damage?,i've got some 180gn sierra pro hunter that will be my next experiment i know i'll need some more 4350 for that one.
Neil
 
Neil,

I wish I could tell you, but so far I have only had one opportunity to try the 150gr load and that was on a Muntjac! It's only a sample size of one but meat damage was acceptable given that the bullet clipped the shoulder on the way in so it wasn't ideal. The exit wound was fairly large as a result, however the damage was confined to that area and there was no widespread bruising you might expect with smaller, faster rounds.

Alex
 
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The exit on a small Muntjac doe shot at about 200 yards.

As you can see the expansion even at this range was good.

at the 2800 fps muzzle level this sort of performance was obtained close up as well.
 
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