Lone working

tom

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Good morning ,
I am looking at lone working solutions (stalking ,tree marking etc )
Is anyone using any system they can recommend please ?
We have tried stay safe and it didn’t really work ,
We do have a few mobile block spots but not too bad on the whole .
I’m thinking Apple air tag’s maybe?
Our vehicles have trackers so it is after leaving a vehicle?
 
Good morning ,
I am looking at lone working solutions (stalking ,tree marking etc )
Is anyone using any system they can recommend please ?
We have tried stay safe and it didn’t really work ,
We do have a few mobile block spots but not too bad on the whole .
I’m thinking Apple air tag’s maybe?
Our vehicles have trackers so it is after leaving a vehicle?
I now take one of these out with me:


It does require some kind of phone signal, but is network-agnostic. I have used it all over Europe, Middle East and Africa and it works well - you subscribe to the geographical coverage you want, and can extend/contract as needed on a monthly basis. You can share the trackers via their App so others can also find you - Mrs G has access (which may not always be a good thing!).

I also have two of their versions that plug into the OBD socket on the car for tracking our cars.

Their customer support is also excellent.

The problem with airtags is that they rely on using a Bluetooth signal to connect to other Apple devices nearby to determine the location of your items. Don't get me wrong - they are great, and I have several. However they aren't an ideal tool for lone working.
 
I'm using a Garmin inreach mini 2. Have never bothered in the past, but with a baby at home you start to think about stuff. Not the cheapest option when you factor in thier subscription service, but I like that's it's a nice small unit and the option to send non-emergency messages when you're out of phone signal is really good. Maybe over the top expense if you need to furnish a team with them though?
 
Ever tried Whatsapp using their 'location' sharing? I use it and it works - usually - but there can be problems in low signal coverage areas.
 
I have a Garmin 67i with InReach. It is very useful and the free messaging allows you to let people know you've started, as many times as you like in the middle and also when you've finished. Each message is geotagged so if anything happens you can go to the last spot. Also you can set up breadcrumb tracking for a location every 10mins if required.

If you really want piece of mind, it's a negligible cost especially if you buy an inreach mini.
 
Good morning ,
I am looking at lone working solutions (stalking ,tree marking etc )
Is anyone using any system they can recommend please ?
We have tried stay safe and it didn’t really work ,
We do have a few mobile block spots but not too bad on the whole .
I’m thinking Apple air tag’s maybe?
Our vehicles have trackers so it is after leaving a vehicle?
Have a look at orbis
 
There are a range of options designed, mostly, to help with box ticking and the like. If you want a system that is designed and certified to have the very highest probability of getting an emergency message out from anywhere on earth then you need a PLB. They don't allow you to upload your location to your mates or send messages but are designed as a last resort means of summoning help. There are several "pocket sized" versions on the market and there really isn't much to choose between them as they have to meet the requirements for certification so, basically, they all have to have the same actual performance. It is worth paying extra for a GPS enabled one as they see a much faster response time (around 8 minutes compared to about 45 minutes for the non-GPS version) and you can also get a version with a little blue light that confirms that your message has been received by the network. In the first instance the Coastguard (in the UK, in some countries it is the military or similar who monitor the network) will try and contact the "contacts" registered against the PLB so if you are working for a company or similar you can put their numbers against the device, if you just operate privately then you can put in friends or relatives who are most likely to know where you would be at any given time. Even if they can't contact anyone a rescue operation will be launched but they like to confirm the circumstances.

I suspect that some of the less robust systems are better for "box ticking" as they can send check-in messages at a fixed time period and this looks good on a risk assessment and I guess might be useful should you fall over dead and someone wish to recover the body. However, they don't have a stellar reputation for reliability, for some people they work well but there are some high profile examples where they've let people down, and are commercial systems so the quality of the people monitoring the network isn't as clearly defined as when it is the Coastguard. There is no certification process and so the devices may, or may not, be reliable and operating in a manner that means someone gets your message.

So depending on your perspective there are arguments in favour of both types of system. The bottom line is that if you want the very highest chance of getting a distress signal out in a very "last resort" emergency with the certainty that a fast and efficient rescue will follow beginning in minutes then a PLB is the way to go and it is certainly what I carry. If you are box ticking and like check-ins and, even, posting stuff on facebook etc. then one of the commercial services might be a better option and chances are it will probably work. My contacts know that if they hear from the Coastguard then I'm in big trouble but rescue is on its way and if they hear nothing then I'm either completely fine, or dead, so I don't need to be updating them every 10 minutes on my lunch and bowel movements.
 
We use people safe at work for our field based staff. Not sure on costs but it does work well. Operator will contact you if it detects a fall, and if unable to contact you will contact a colleague in close proximity. So far it seems to do the job.
 
There are a range of options designed, mostly, to help with box ticking and the like. If you want a system that is designed and certified to have the very highest probability of getting an emergency message out from anywhere on earth then you need a PLB. They don't allow you to upload your location to your mates or send messages but are designed as a last resort means of summoning help. There are several "pocket sized" versions on the market and there really isn't much to choose between them as they have to meet the requirements for certification so, basically, they all have to have the same actual performance. It is worth paying extra for a GPS enabled one as they see a much faster response time (around 8 minutes compared to about 45 minutes for the non-GPS version) and you can also get a version with a little blue light that confirms that your message has been received by the network. In the first instance the Coastguard (in the UK, in some countries it is the military or similar who monitor the network) will try and contact the "contacts" registered against the PLB so if you are working for a company or similar you can put their numbers against the device, if you just operate privately then you can put in friends or relatives who are most likely to know where you would be at any given time. Even if they can't contact anyone a rescue operation will be launched but they like to confirm the circumstances.

I suspect that some of the less robust systems are better for "box ticking" as they can send check-in messages at a fixed time period and this looks good on a risk assessment and I guess might be useful should you fall over dead and someone wish to recover the body. However, they don't have a stellar reputation for reliability, for some people they work well but there are some high profile examples where they've let people down, and are commercial systems so the quality of the people monitoring the network isn't as clearly defined as when it is the Coastguard. There is no certification process and so the devices may, or may not, be reliable and operating in a manner that means someone gets your message.

So depending on your perspective there are arguments in favour of both types of system. The bottom line is that if you want the very highest chance of getting a distress signal out in a very "last resort" emergency with the certainty that a fast and efficient rescue will follow beginning in minutes then a PLB is the way to go and it is certainly what I carry. If you are box ticking and like check-ins and, even, posting stuff on facebook etc. then one of the commercial services might be a better option and chances are it will probably work. My contacts know that if they hear from the Coastguard then I'm in big trouble but rescue is on its way and if they hear nothing then I'm either completely fine, or dead, so I don't need to be updating them every 10 minutes on my lunch and bowel movements.

Excellent post. I use one of these:

 
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Excellent post. I use one of these:

Use this on my boat when out solo - and take it on the hill if i go alone

Air tag only works if someone nearby has an I phone switched on

Tried to track the kids when we went camping with an air tag. Useless
 
Use this on my boat when out solo - and take it on the hill if i go alone

Air tag only works if someone nearby has an I phone switched on

Tried to track the kids when we went camping with an air tag. Useless

He too. I got it for sailing but use it if I'm somewhere remote.
 
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