Just a general enquiry any of above for sale . Model, grade and price. ? ( looked on Guntrader etc, so looking maybe private.) 
Longthorne 12g Shotguns.
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Hudson12
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How northern is northern aren’t they made in the northwest lolYour not allowed one pat I’m afraid to classey for you northerners?
I only want one as a second best.Your not allowed one pat I’m afraid to classey for you northerners?
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enfieldspares
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Made in Northamptonshire now...like Carlsberg lager!
Now if you want a Brummie gun...O/U or S/B/S...I look at A A Brown. Maybe the Brown Beretta or their new O/U? The issue I'd concern myself with the Longthorne O/U is this. If it drops a wad and you end up with a ring bulge you can't, in the extreme, separate the barrels. In the ideal world it'd never happen. Yet I have just acquired a hammer gun that it has happened to...so that's both ribs off and then swedge the ring bulge down where you can't reach with the usual small hammer and steel rod method.
www.aabrownandsons.com
www.aabrownandsons.com
Just saying! Enjoy the video on the Brown Beretta. Also the Sportarm Perazzi Ribless Game maybe? Hope it helps with your choice and I hope I've not hijacked the thread. Sorry.
Now if you want a Brummie gun...O/U or S/B/S...I look at A A Brown. Maybe the Brown Beretta or their new O/U? The issue I'd concern myself with the Longthorne O/U is this. If it drops a wad and you end up with a ring bulge you can't, in the extreme, separate the barrels. In the ideal world it'd never happen. Yet I have just acquired a hammer gun that it has happened to...so that's both ribs off and then swedge the ring bulge down where you can't reach with the usual small hammer and steel rod method.
The ABAS Series 8 by A.A.Brown & Sons
The ABAS Series 8. A best quality bespoke English handmade over and under shotgun.
www.aabrownandsons.com
A.A.Brown & Sons | Brown Beretta
The Brown Beretta B.B Game, A Beretta over and under shotgun modified by A.A.Brown & Sons to suit game shooters.
www.aabrownandsons.com
Just saying! Enjoy the video on the Brown Beretta. Also the Sportarm Perazzi Ribless Game maybe? Hope it helps with your choice and I hope I've not hijacked the thread. Sorry.
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With a Preston phone number.!
Hudson12
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I actually looked them up the other day he originally started near me at Southport but I think they have moved production to middle England somewhere I listened to one of the country gents podcasts and the guy mentioned something about Northampton but tbh I wasn’t listening to well more ambient chit chatWith a Preston phone number.!
Not being of a technical nature that's an interesting point.Made in Northamptonshire now...like Carlsberg lager!
Now if you want a Brummie gun...O/U or S/B/S...I look at A A Brown. Maybe the Brown Beretta or their new O/U? The issue I'd concern myself with the Longthorne O/U is this. If it drops a wad and you end up with a ring bulge you can't, in the extreme, separate the barrels. In the ideal world it'd never happen. Yet I have just acquired a hammer gun that it has happened to...so that's both ribs off and then swedge the ring bulge down where you can't reach with the usual small hammer and steel rod method.
The ABAS Series 8 by A.A.Brown & Sons
The ABAS Series 8. A best quality bespoke English handmade over and under shotgun.
A.A.Brown & Sons | Brown Beretta
The Brown Beretta B.B Game, A Beretta over and under shotgun modified by A.A.Brown & Sons to suit game shooters.
Just saying! Hope it helps and I've not hijacked the thread. Sorry.
Hi Hudson I think your correct, I'm in Chorley and I think they have a call centre ? or an office with a Preston (01772) number.
enfieldspares
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Yes PSP. It's something I'd ask a gunsmith about and see what they say? Look the reality is that you'll never have a problem with a dropped wad. But if you do and there's a ring bulge IMHO the tubes are scrap. They can't be separated and the ring bulge swedged down nor can they be sleeved. I for sure wouldn't want a gun with that one piece barrel construction. Sorry to be a Jonah!
Hudson12
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Think it’s possibly his houseHi Hudson I think your correct, I'm in Chorley and I think they have a call centre ? or an office with a Preston (01772) number.
enfieldspares
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I'd ask the question, maybe? Directly. What happens if I get a ring bulge can the barrels be separated or sleeved? And if not how much is a new set of tubes?
There's a reason beyond sheer bloodymindedness and "stuffy" tradition that tubes are made as they are. There's chopper lump, dovetail lump, monobloc barrels to name but three. Yet nobody else makes a pair of barrels by this one piece method. Even BSA with their machine made pre-war boxlocks that used a further variation on making a pair of barrels didn't. There must be a reason for it not being widely adopted despite any advantages it may apparently offer. Sorry!
FWIW and I've never handles one though the nearest 1,000 UK Pound figure O/U like an "English" O/U is outward appearance is probably the MacNab Highlander with half pistol hand and solid rib? Fancy a pair? Evans have the guns below. I guess they could send them up to Bisley for a try out?
www.williamevans.com
Or a single 12?
www.williamevans.com
There's a reason beyond sheer bloodymindedness and "stuffy" tradition that tubes are made as they are. There's chopper lump, dovetail lump, monobloc barrels to name but three. Yet nobody else makes a pair of barrels by this one piece method. Even BSA with their machine made pre-war boxlocks that used a further variation on making a pair of barrels didn't. There must be a reason for it not being widely adopted despite any advantages it may apparently offer. Sorry!
FWIW and I've never handles one though the nearest 1,000 UK Pound figure O/U like an "English" O/U is outward appearance is probably the MacNab Highlander with half pistol hand and solid rib? Fancy a pair? Evans have the guns below. I guess they could send them up to Bisley for a try out?
John Macnab Highlander Pair 16 Bore Over & Under Shotguns
John Macnab Highlander Pair 16 Bore Over & Under Shotguns S/H 51047 & 51048
www.williamevans.com
Or a single 12?
John Macnab Highlander 12 Bore Over & Under Shotgun S/H
John Macnab Highlander Sideplate 12 Bore Over & Under Shotgun Second Hand 53316
www.williamevans.com
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What percentage of new shotguns get bulges in barrels? That's a very poor reason for steering someone away from a Longthorne IMO.
I suspect that the reason that other shotgun barrels are made the way that they are is because it is easier and cheaper (for production guns anyway) and because they like to keep it traditional rather than use modern technologies like Longthorne.
I suspect that the reason that other shotgun barrels are made the way that they are is because it is easier and cheaper (for production guns anyway) and because they like to keep it traditional rather than use modern technologies like Longthorne.
I think they're the first to do it successfully, though.
Re bulged barrels, as has been suggested, just ask them how their barrels could be fixed if this happens. I'm sure you'll enjoy the conversation.
Re. MacNab's, weren't they all made in Italy?
enfieldspares
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Yes. The MacNabs are Italian guns.
Longthorne admin
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Hello all, thank you for your interest in our guns. Just to answer your questions. Our phone number is diverted from our previous location in Preston to our current location in Northampton. We just kept the same number.
Our in house tests have shown that If you do happen to bulge one of our barrels although highly unlikely as it is 50% harder than conventional barrel materials (which allows us superior steel proof them up to full choke) the ‘bulge’ would not ‘bulge’ through the rib as it is an integral part of the barrel it can therefore be swaged down in the usual manner.
We are the only company in the world making barrels using this method. Joseph Whitworth did make some sxs barrels from solid steel in 1857 using a different method. The main reason for others not having made them using our method is it the huge investment involved and relevant knowledge of current manufacturing technology , in addition we have global patents.
We manufacture our guns entirely in our Northampton factory , train our own staff and proud to say the are 100% English made.
We hope this is helpful and wish you happy and safe shooting
Best wishes, Longthorne Admin
Our in house tests have shown that If you do happen to bulge one of our barrels although highly unlikely as it is 50% harder than conventional barrel materials (which allows us superior steel proof them up to full choke) the ‘bulge’ would not ‘bulge’ through the rib as it is an integral part of the barrel it can therefore be swaged down in the usual manner.
We are the only company in the world making barrels using this method. Joseph Whitworth did make some sxs barrels from solid steel in 1857 using a different method. The main reason for others not having made them using our method is it the huge investment involved and relevant knowledge of current manufacturing technology , in addition we have global patents.
We manufacture our guns entirely in our Northampton factory , train our own staff and proud to say the are 100% English made.
We hope this is helpful and wish you happy and safe shooting
Best wishes, Longthorne Admin
Thanks for that. Back to my general inquiry about used/ second hand/ ex demo's etc availability. Many Thanks. psp.
