Lost deer

bijssg

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Well had a crap week at work and then to top it off I lost my knife whilst frantically trying to find a fallow doe, I had waited for 40 minutes as the herd knew something was up I picked out a young cull doe target area was the neck only 80yds away, she dropped on the spot as quickly as I reloaded she got up staggered a little then ran like the clappers searched for two hours with my dog no sign no blood no hair, I feel awful felt like throwing my rifle in the ditch I'll be up there again tomorrow, as my bestest said you stalk deer long enough things like this happen and if you didn't care you shouldn't be stalking.
Just thought I'd share this cheers
 
Your bestest is right. Just this sort of sh*t happens - and has happened - to us all. Sleep on it, then head out fresh in the morning. With any luck you'll find your knife *and* your fallow, and stalk into another deer or two while you're at it.
 
bijssg, Good luck I'm sure you'll find her. Not the first or the last.
I had a very similar situation. My dog and I looked after her trail for a couple of hours, finally giving up.
We came back to the shot site to pick up my sack and found her lying stone dead five yards in the opposite direction in deep heather. The (obviously now) second doe I didn't see, had ran off and I mistaken her for the one I had shot.jc
 
Well done for you wanting to go back again tomorrow to look for her. As you have quite rightly said if you stalk deer long enough then this sort of thing has a very good likelyhood of happening, and if you don't care for the welfare of the deer then you might be better just shooting at paper targets!
Well done for sharing!
 
Why not contact one of the deer dog blokes on here they would probably be more than willing to help you, hope it ends well Jake
 
Probably the biggest cause of truly 'lost' deer. Was it a low or mid neck shot by any chance? The spinal column sits very low down in the low neck. The shot passes through the flesh behind the spine and the shock knocks the animal over. It then gets up and runs as described! It happens particularly with less frangible soft point bullets as they hardly expand if at all. There is no large exit and hence no hair. No major organs are hit and no major blood vessels hence no blood trail. The only consolation is that many deer hit in such a manner will recover, especially at this time of year when fly-strike is unlikely. It still feels awful and I've been there and feel for you. If you don't find it very nearby tomorrow, I doubt you ever will. Worth giving the UKSHA guys a call though as their dogs don't necessarily need a blood trail to follow and they'd probably leave one like that a good while anyway.
Good luck.
MS
 
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The shot passes through the flesh behind the spine and the shock knocks the animal over. It then gets up and runs as described!
MS

ive had this happen on a roe buck with a high neck shot he was standing in crop and only offered a shot to the neck, im not sure if he moved or i f??cked up he hit the deck then jumped back up shacking his head as he ran off straight over the brow of the hill and over the boundry and out of sight i quickly reloaded made sure i had my phone on me to ring for a dog and was ready to give chase when he came running back obviously a bit disorientated by his ordeal he ran out of the crop where i managed the stop him with a shout and he was dropped with a chest shot, the 1st shot was around 65 yards, im an experienced shot and know my kit but this very nearly went wrong for me it happens bijssg i got lucky with this one and hopfully you will with yours
 
Good luck with that one, most neck shot deer that get back up are gone for good. It is best to check with a dog though. Its a a bit like riding a bike, the more you do it the better you get but there is all ways a chance of falling off. However if you fall of get back on and try again. I used to dwell on situations like you had but I think you are best to learn from it and then put it behind you
 
ive had this happen on a roe buck with a high neck shot he was standing in crop and only offered a shot to the neck, im not sure if he moved or i f??cked up he hit the deck then jumped back up shacking his head as he ran off straight over the brow of the hill and over the boundry and out of sight i quickly reloaded made sure i had my phone on me to ring for a dog and was ready to give chase when he came running back obviously a bit disorientated by his ordeal he ran out of the crop where i managed the stop him with a shout and he was dropped with a chest shot, the 1st shot was around 65 yards, im an experienced shot and know my kit but this very nearly went wrong for me it happens bijssg i got lucky with this one and hopfully you will with yours
Now that is lucky. I would have made buying a lottery ticket a priority after that!
 
As said if you shoot enough deer sooner or later you will experience problems , I hope you find your doe

im not questioning your choice of shot but a H/L shot will at least give a potential blood trail to follow

even then I've still trudged 100yards to find a runner
 
Always going to be a hard track, but if you would like one of us to come out we are available if you want us to follow up.
we can also help with shot site for future follow ups to make things easier, let us know if you need help
wayne
 
Nicked the vertebrae I suspect. Motto is engine room every time. Meat on shoulders not worth the bother.
 
If the shoulders are truly gone then fair enough but only,takes. 5 minutes to bone out a shoulder and remove meat for mincing , just my opinion but if going to drop a beast surely should be using as much of it as possible ?
I hate waste , and surprising even on a roe what you can get out shoulders, throw bit o mince pork belly in with it and few burgers from it.

Paul
 
Had it happen twice with neck shots once with a munty and with a roe buck which is extremely saddening ESP as both were not recovered even after long searches with good dogs .wouldnt say I'm completely put off by neck shots but my 1st 2nd and 3rd choices are a chest shot every time . I'm not that desperate to kill a deer these days as to up the % of loosing one by taking a neck shot really .
norma
 
Had it happen twice with neck shots once with a munty and with a roe buck which is extremely saddening ESP as both were not recovered even after long searches with good dogs .wouldnt say I'm completely put off by neck shots but my 1st 2nd and 3rd choices are a chest shot every time . I'm not that desperate to kill a deer these days as to up the % of loosing one by taking a neck shot really .
norma
Couldn't agree more Doug
 
my 1st 2nd and 3rd choices are a chest shot every time . I'm not that desperate to kill a deer these days as to up the % of loosing one by taking a neck shot really .

I sort of agree with this in the sense that a chest shot deer, even if it runs and you never see it again, is dead and it is probably dead within 30 seconds of you firing the shot.

The other side to it is that I often shoot sika in thick cover (tall rushes mostly) along the edges of forestry replantings. If you waited to get a chest shot you could, honestly, stalk for years and never pull the trigger as mostly all you see is the head and neck above the rushes. You also can't have a runner as any deer that runs will go into the replanting which is still waist deep in brash from the clearfelling, plus the rushes and new trees. Even with a dog significant parts of such ground is simply physically impossible to get into and certainly presents a significant risk to the lone stalker in the pitch dark. Under these circumstances a head or neck shot is often the only option. I do my best to minimize welfare issues by only taking such shots with the deer facing directly towards or away from me.

One of the most interesting "runners" I witnessed was shot by a mate who phoned me and asked for help in the search. It was a sika calf chest shot in a very dark forestry track at last light. Initially he could find no trace of it but after some crawling about I found where it was standing and it looked to me like the shot had knocked it off balance as the slots took a stagger and had dug up the ground a little attempting to remain upright. I also spotted, after considerable searching, a "line" in the dew on the grass and by following it was able to pick his bullet off the ground and return it to him, pretty remarkable in itself. Hopefully this highlights that it was a very thorough and careful search indeed. We found no blood, hair or other signs from the deer, apart from those discussed, that it was hit. Despite further searching we were unable to find it. About two weeks later I found it some 250 - 300 yards away in the opposite direction to that in which he thought it had run, and the signs indicated it probably did run in. The weather had been cold and so it was fairly well preserved and appeared to have been nicely hit in the chest with the bullet going in about the shoulder and exiting behind the ribs on the far side. It was a 308 and the distance was about 40 - 50 yards. We had to conclude that not only had it run in the opposite direction to what we thought but it had probably almost brushed past the shoulder of my mate as it ran past him.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes necessity, and even welfare issues, mean that chest shots may not always be possible and also that "strange stuff" happens no matter how careful you are, how big a hole you make, how well hit the deer is and how careful your follow up is. Who'd have thought you could shoot a small calf right through the chest with a 308 at close range, pick up the expanded bullet off the grass and yet fail to recover the deer?
 
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