Littlejimmy
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I would favour the Mitsubishi over the Rav and Crv. You won’t find a rav that’s not rotten for that money and the crv has possibly the worst 4x4 system ever designed.
Mitsubishi 4X4
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ChesterP
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This one is far from rotten. It's immaculate inside and out. 
Never been used off road and well cared for to the extent there isn't any advisories on the mot history and only 1 fail for a leaking exhaust flexible coupler. Not a bad record for a 16 year old car. It has well under 100K miles too and no cambelt to change, plus comes freshly serviced, new Bridgestone Deuler tyres (I asked for all seasons to be fitted) and a years mot.
I'll not be buying a mitsubishi that age where someone who worked at a dealership has first hand knowledge of the engine issues. Not worth taking the risk. Toyota motor will go on long after everything else has given up.
Never been used off road and well cared for to the extent there isn't any advisories on the mot history and only 1 fail for a leaking exhaust flexible coupler. Not a bad record for a 16 year old car. It has well under 100K miles too and no cambelt to change, plus comes freshly serviced, new Bridgestone Deuler tyres (I asked for all seasons to be fitted) and a years mot.I'll not be buying a mitsubishi that age where someone who worked at a dealership has first hand knowledge of the engine issues. Not worth taking the risk. Toyota motor will go on long after everything else has given up.
My kia sportage 2.crdi 4wd with electric diff lock had Duelers fitted which dissolved as I drove .
Replaced with BFG urban terrain 3 years latter still mighty fine.
Good on snow and off road too follow the Isuzu, and Nissan boys off road without dramas on our shoot .
Imho the Bfg,s far better than the Bridgestone,s atb
Replaced with BFG urban terrain 3 years latter still mighty fine.
Good on snow and off road too follow the Isuzu, and Nissan boys off road without dramas on our shoot .
Imho the Bfg,s far better than the Bridgestone,s atb
Vitara "unbought"! Had issues with it. Rav4 bought instead and it's a cracker
Out of interest, what were the issues?
ChesterP
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Underside not what I expected (ahem). I wanted something that would pass more than one more mot and I'm not confident that this one would. Shame as everything else was sorted and good.
As said above, Rav4 is quite light and what it lacks in 4wd effectiveness, it makes up for with better tyres, light weight and all round practicality, including a nice big and low load area.
Interesting comment RE Duellers. I have had two more mentioned which were recommended to me being the Maxxis MA SW Victra tyres and the NEXEN Wingaurd SUV ones. Not really very chunky so T&C 195/60s might also be an option?
I have a 2005 Mitsubishi Shogun Sport Warrior V6 Auto, its very smooth, refined and reliable has 177ps and makes the diesel versions feel like an old tractor, fuel econonmy is on par with the diesel at Ave. 23mpg, its great off road with 4wd Hi/Lo transfer box. ive had 7 years now and wont change it simply because there is nothing to compare in its class
Yes they are becoming more desirable and the value is going up
ChesterP
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Rav4 on my doorstep at 7 am this morning after the dealer drover it 175 miles from Kent to deliver it....no charge for the delivery, half a tank of petrol left in it, valeted and a fresh 12 months mot with no advisories. They wanted to do something to help out (there's a back story as to the primary reason I bought this) so none of this cost a penny over the original asking price. It even came with 4 new Dueller H/T's fitted. That sort of thing restores faith in humanity.
It's sound as a pound. No signs of any serious rust anywhere bar the front lip of the sunroof frame which is pretty rotten, but I can look out for a new sunroof glass on Ebay for not much money. Underside is sound, brakes are good, engine is sweet, suspension fine. It drives fine and stops well and everything works. Inside is pretty much unmarked which is remarkable. What a great little motor! Whipped it round to my mechanic friend who has a garage 150 yds away and he gave it the once over and confirmed it was a really tidy example with nothing really needing doing. I can't find the last service receipt but was told it was done 5K miles back but might just replace the serpentine belt for peace of mind. Gearbox and clutch are sound. If I was picky I'd just take a touch up pen to a few stonechips on the bonnet to stop the rust but other than that, I'm very happy with it.
Torquey motor, pulls really well from no revs. Seems very low geared so cruising at 65mph in top seems order of the day for the rare longer trips but there's no reason it shouldn't do well off road. It has permanent 4wd (viscous coupling, equal split front and back) and auto difflock with limited slip diff on the rears I think. Reasonable ground clearance too. What a stellar little car!
It's sound as a pound. No signs of any serious rust anywhere bar the front lip of the sunroof frame which is pretty rotten, but I can look out for a new sunroof glass on Ebay for not much money. Underside is sound, brakes are good, engine is sweet, suspension fine. It drives fine and stops well and everything works. Inside is pretty much unmarked which is remarkable. What a great little motor! Whipped it round to my mechanic friend who has a garage 150 yds away and he gave it the once over and confirmed it was a really tidy example with nothing really needing doing. I can't find the last service receipt but was told it was done 5K miles back but might just replace the serpentine belt for peace of mind. Gearbox and clutch are sound. If I was picky I'd just take a touch up pen to a few stonechips on the bonnet to stop the rust but other than that, I'm very happy with it.
Torquey motor, pulls really well from no revs. Seems very low geared so cruising at 65mph in top seems order of the day for the rare longer trips but there's no reason it shouldn't do well off road. It has permanent 4wd (viscous coupling, equal split front and back) and auto difflock with limited slip diff on the rears I think. Reasonable ground clearance too. What a stellar little car!
Limpet
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The Pinin is a capable 4x4 and is not to bad on peterol. My one served me well and got me places where larger vehicals would fear to tread.
Check front wings for rust as the design is such that mud gets to the inside of the wings. Check the fuel tank for perforations as a replacement is expensive. Dont disregard the Suzuki Grand Vitara in three or five door these wee motors as the Pinin are first class off roaders as many a Rangerover, Land Cruser will testify. The Suzuki can be found with a 1.9 diesel and is a lot easyer on fuel than the 2.4 peterol. The 1.6 peterol does not have a diff lock.
ChesterP
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Appreciate the feedback but as above, bought a Mk2 Rav4 (photos to come...)
Hales Smut
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I have the Mitsubischi Outlander 2.2 diesel. Best car I've been driving in for years. Very good on road and never let me down off road. Selector between 2WD and 4WD. 2WD is on the front wheels wich gives you superb wet road traction.
My previous car was a Terrano. Very good, but lethal on wet tarmac roads. 2WD should be front wheel , it's just that much better.
My son had a Subaru Forester diesel , chipped to 190HP . Was a brillant car. I regret he sold it. The only disadvantage it had compared to the Outlander, was extra noise inside when driving.
My top shooting vehicle is the VW Transporter 4motion. Has everything you need and more.
My previous car was a Terrano. Very good, but lethal on wet tarmac roads. 2WD should be front wheel , it's just that much better.
My son had a Subaru Forester diesel , chipped to 190HP . Was a brillant car. I regret he sold it. The only disadvantage it had compared to the Outlander, was extra noise inside when driving.
My top shooting vehicle is the VW Transporter 4motion. Has everything you need and more.
ChesterP
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Having a new set of fronts fitted tomorrow after some kindly soul decided it would be funny to screw in some panheads to my fronts when parked in town 
duelers were too pricey and the fitter didn't rate them as highly as Yokohama Geolander G015s, which will be fine mixed with rear duelers (both are all season, but G015s are also more all terrain biased).
duelers were too pricey and the fitter didn't rate them as highly as Yokohama Geolander G015s, which will be fine mixed with rear duelers (both are all season, but G015s are also more all terrain biased).
Norfolk Horn
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Not good having that additional expenseHaving a new set of fronts fitted tomorrow after some kindly soul decided it would be funny to screw in some panheads to my fronts when parked in town
duelers were too pricey and the fitter didn't rate them as highly as Yokohama Geolander G015s, which will be fine mixed with rear duelers (both are all season, but G015s are also more all terrain biased).
Be interested to hear what you think of the new tyres
ChesterP
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I'll post my thoughts on a new thread for those tyres once I have a few hundred miles mixed driving on them. I quite like the Duelers which on a muddy, rutted track seemed to grip just fine but must admit I find them a bit vague on road. They seem to be fine in the wet but lack road feedback. Had to just clean the wheels off before setting off to the tyre fitters Lol as there was more mud plastered over those and the wheels than they would think funny!
ChesterP
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The one's I had were the Dueler 687 all seasons. They were ok off road on muddy tracks but my minor gripe on road was they were a bit harsh and lacked tyre feedback, especially in the wet although they gripped just fine. Just back in after a drive around with the new Geolander GO15's fitted and straight away they gave a smoother more comfortable ride and have more feedback. I'll give them a few hundred miles and take them off road too, but from the off, they feel better and were £20 per corner cheaper to fit than to replace the Dueler 687 H/Ts. Two, fitted and balanced came to £191. Not bad.
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